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Canadian Sailor
unregistered 		posted September 15, 2002 11:17 AM           
I was wondering if both CL 16 & 14 models have hull drain plugs (or are they full of styrofoam) in case of leaky hull.

I was also wondering which model is better for a thirteen year-old sailor who has been sailing for 3 years.

Thanks.

RAD

Summermemories
Member 		posted September 16, 2002 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Summermemories   Click Here to Email Summermemories     
Rad-

I've got a CL 14. I haven't had occassion to open the hull up myself, but my understanding is that there is floatation material both under the bench seats and in the bow area.

There are, however, hull plugs for draining out what water may get caught between the outside and inside skin. There's another thread here on the board where people talk about placement, number, purpose, etc.

-Adam

Tom D CL16
Member 		posted September 16, 2002 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom D CL16   Click Here to Email Tom D CL16     
My old CL16 has a drain plug that drains into the lazarette. It is to drain any water than may leak into the enclosed bottom from the centerboard pivot. I seldom get any water there. I had the boat moored for a week and not a drop drained out when I opened the plug and tipped the trailer. Also I open the little ports on the side of the centerboard trunk whenever the boat is on the trailer.
tom d

Canadian Sailor
unregistered 		posted September 16, 2002 06:22 PM           
Thanks all, but you guys haven't answered the second question.

Celtic Kiss
unregistered 		posted September 16, 2002 07:06 PM           
Hi Cdn. Sailor;

In my honest opinion I would go with the CL 16. I bought mine in '97 and have nothing but good things to say about it. All or most sailors at one time or another get a disease called "two-footitis" If you start out with the 14 you'll eventually want to go to the 16. Save yourself the headache now and start with the 16.

The 16 is also quite common on the used boat market. Just look at the board and see how many people are looking to buy the 16.

The 16 also has wider gunwales making it easier to sit on, has ample storage in the stern lazarette and forepeak. The storage is a big issue for me because I like to go camping in secluded coves.

Th Cl16 is a terrific boat for sailors of all skill levels too !!

Happy Sails and Fair winds

Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120



whited
unregistered 		posted September 17, 2002 10:19 AM           
I struggled with which model to buy 2 years ago.
I went with the CL 14 because I knew the previous owner and the boat was perfect. Also, I couldn't count on my wife to crew...so I thought the 14 would be easier to right if capsized.
It was also $ 1k cheaper than the CL 16 I was thinking about.
If I was doing it again...I would take a closer look at the 16. Being a fairly heavy,
full sized adult, I could probably handle the 16 with a little practice.
The past 3 summers I have done all the sailing I need on a Mirage 33...so the boat sits sadly on it's trailer in my driveway.

ron_thain_stansfield
unregistered 		posted September 21, 2002 11:09 PM           
I have owned a CL 11, CL 16 and sailed the CL 14 and prefer it. The 14 is large enough to carry two large men comfortably (the 11 is crowded). It seems to me the main difference between the 14 and the 16 is the aft lazerette (sp?) which I found to be a nuisance when attempting to use the boat with an electric motor.

Cheers,

Ron

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