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Topic: Portsmouth Ratings
paul JuniorMember
posted June 19, 2003 10:21 AM
I am looking to possibly purchase a CL14. However, I am confused on Portsmouth ratings. CL Sailboat sales literature states a rating of 96, while the tables posted by US Sailing indicate a rating of 103.5--significantly slower!! What gives?
whited unregistered
posted June 19, 2003 01:54 PM
I had pointed this out a year or so ago. Can't remember if I got an answer.
At first I believed the Cl 14 was faster than the 16....but ratings suggest otherwise. I might have to arrange a series of races off the Nova Scotia coast between Robert's CL16 (Celtic Kiss) and my 14.
California Member
posted June 23, 2003 12:13 AM
I had the same question when I was looking at the CL14. I posed the question to Cody at CL Sailboats saying I would like to be slower than the Lido 14 which you find out here. This was his response.
"The CL14 has a rating of 96 (according to the Canadian Yachting Assoc.) I would think this number to be accurate for the boat. The lido is 310lbs. fully rigged and the CL14 is 265lbs rigged. As well the CL14 has 120 sq ft of sail. The cut of the sail is different as well. The lido has a very small roach while the CL14 has a large potent roach. The Lido is also a round hull.. making it more tipsy, allowing it to be overpowered and loose speed. The CL14 has a double chine that allows the boat to bite into the water, stop heeling and drive forward. The CL14 is no speed machine but it is a quick ride. It is responsive and sturdy. A laser II by comparison is fast... very fast. yet at the same time it requires work to keep the fast from becoming wet and tiring. The CL14 has decent performance without the hassle, edginess or tipsiness."
I bought the CL14 and have sailed with Lido 14s (the typical training boat here in Southern California.) The Lido has a rating of 99 and I can say that the CL14 is faster. It has a better upwind performance and a much better peformance off the wind.
I must say I am happy with the CL14.
Bob
California Member
posted June 23, 2003 12:15 AM
Oops, I meant to say I would NOT like to be slower than the CL14.
California Member
posted June 23, 2003 12:16 AM
Time to go to bed. I keep making mistakes. "NOT like to be slower than the Lido 14."
whited unregistered
posted June 23, 2003 09:05 AM
Thanks for that Bob. I like to hear comparisons from people who have sailed a number of similar daysailers. It's been 20 years since I took my 'CYA White Sail' course on 420's. I've forgotten how exciting and responsive the small boats are.
California Member
posted June 23, 2003 07:46 PM
Since you are searching for a boat. I found the following web site to be very helpful. It is called "In Search of the Perfect Dinghy." The URL is www.ruach.net/Dinghy.html.
Be sure to read his criteria. It happened to closely match mine.
Bob
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