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Topic: Rigging a CL14
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Archarzel
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posted August 21, 2002 10:32 PM
I have just purchased a CL14 the manual, states a rake of 6-8 in aft.
Is there anywhere I can get a measurement for this as I cant seem to get the mast to vertical never mind a aft rake. What am I doing wrong ?
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whited
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posted August 22, 2002 08:25 AM
Try tying a wrench to the end of the main halyard. (plumb weight)
The wrench should hang just above the mast step.
By adjusting the turnbuckle on the forestay, and fiddling with the adjusters on your shrouds...you should be able to have the
wrench hang six to eight inched aft of the mast.
The trick is to have the boat hull 'level'.
If you have help, it may be possible to do this while the boat is floating in shallow water.
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Summermemories
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posted August 22, 2002 09:27 AM
 
I haven't been paying much attention to mast rake yet and am looking foward to experimenting. I'll be spending next week on vaction (with the boat) so that should be a good time to take your advice. The hardest part would seem to be getting the boat level (but stable). It sounds like it really needs to be on the water for this to be accurate and so I'm wondering if there isn't another way to measure that doesn't depend on gravity. Is there a typical amount of space between the front of the mast and the front of the fiberglass channel that it sits in that equates to the 6-8" of aft tilt? Enough space to put your finger in? An inch? Or should I stick to using a weight on the halyard...
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whited
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posted August 22, 2002 11:00 AM
Some of the experienced sailors may have an easy way to do this.
When I try it...I'l fit a wedge between the forward edge of mast and the fibreglass channel and mark how far it drops down to come up with the proper rake.
Since the bottom is curved on the CL 14, I,m guessing a carpenters level would be useless.
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Summermemories
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posted August 22, 2002 11:25 AM
Great idea. I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
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CL16-2695
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posted August 22, 2002 03:23 PM
Would it be possible to check the boat's horizontal with it sitting on a trailer with a carpenter's level on the deck? Then just raise or lower the tongue of the trailer until the deck is horizontal and do the plumb thing with your main halyard. What I'm not sure about is would the boat be considered level with this method? The process will work... it's just what is the correct location to place the carpenter's level to establish the horizontal? I have a furling jib on my CL16 which means that rather than adjust the mast rake using the forstay I have to do it with the jib halyard. I'm not sure if this poses additional problems or not. Any thoughts??? Has anyone asked the CL Boatshop guys for their suggestions? Norman
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Celtic Kiss
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posted August 22, 2002 04:19 PM
When I test my rake I have the boat on the trailer and put the carpenter's level on top of the centerboard trunk. I,ve also found that if I place the trailer tongue on top of my toolbox, the boat is level.I admit my experiment was a fluke. If you have access to a jackstand. That may be a bit more reliable. I also have jib furling. If I should undo the jib halyard, the whole mast comes down. For finding the rake I simply (actually it's a real pain) adjust the shrouds to where I want them and tape them up so they don't vibrate loose. I also mark my jib halyard at the cleat on the mast. It seems to work but I'm not in racing mode anymore and to be honest I don't pay an incredible amount of attention to it. Robert
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Tom D CL16
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posted August 22, 2002 08:25 PM
My trailer has a retractable roller. I jack it up and set the level on the cross seat and put weight on the halyard. The read deck is almost level on my CL16. I don't check it often, but it is easier on the trailer.
good sailing tom d
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CL16-2695
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posted August 22, 2002 08:33 PM
Robert & Tom I thank you both. I'll try it using the level where you suggest... don't know why I didn't think of that location myself.Robert have you considered adding a forestay as a precaution? That way if you lose your jib halyard your mast stays up. I have mine rigged that way and although I've never lost my jib you never know what could happen. Thanks again for the ideas guys. Norman
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Celtic Kiss
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posted August 22, 2002 09:03 PM
Norman; I found that when I furled the jib, it was constantly getting wrapped up on the forestay. I tried this on the trailer first and was glad I did because I wouldn't want that to happen while underway. Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120
Thank you for your kind reply to my post.
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Summermemories
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posted August 22, 2002 11:12 PM
I've got a permanent forestay on my CL14. It has, on occassion, gotten wrapped up in the jib. It really only seems to happen when the two aren't tightened to approximately the same tension as each other. So long as I keep them about the same- no problem.
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Archarzel
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posted August 22, 2002 11:47 PM
Thank you all for you help.
I will give them a try.
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Tom on Cape Cod
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posted August 25, 2002 01:24 AM
I have spent some time working on the rake of my cl 16. According to the manual I have the rake is measured when it is on an "even keel". Using a level on the thwart, and the transom is vertical. I am assuming that this is the way it sits in the water so I set the boat up on the trailer this way. Again I'm talking about the cl 16 so I don't know if this will help with the 14. God Luck any way.Tom
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CL 'CL16 1698' Nelson
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posted August 27, 2002 09:37 AM
Archarzel:The best (read 'easiest') way that I found to do this 20-odd years ago was with the boat floating in still water and hanging a weight from the main halyard. Realize that the reason you are doing this is to center the boat's helm: too much rake and you will have a pronounced weather helm; too little and you'll have a lee helm. (Did I get that right? Could be vice versa, but I think that's it.) So it's not so crucial that you have 'exactly' such-and-such a measurement. You'll know you have it right when the boat has a proper 'slight' weather helm. Start with a 6" rake (or so) and see what feels good when under sail. Don't try to be too fine with a preliminary adjustment and think that you're sailing to a Bible of some kind. As I said, I set my rake 20-odd years ago and I seldom change it any more. (Well, there was that time I had to replace the mast ... but that's another story.) Chris
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