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Topic: Are some Sandpipers better than others?
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Darcy
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posted January 07, 2004 01:39 AM
 
Many class boats built over a number of years seem to have years where the boats were better built than others. Any opinions as to what years were the best when Sandpipers were produced? Also: When was the last year that they were built?D'Arcy
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Celtic Kiss
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posted January 07, 2004 01:46 AM
Excellent question D'arcy. I've heard that Hobie Cats had a few bad years with regards to hull integrity. If I recall correctly it's not a wise idea to buy a second-hand Hobie 18 built around 1985. Hopefully Tom or Cody will read this post and give us some insight. ------------------
Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120
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Eric
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posted January 07, 2004 10:38 PM
I've not heard of particularly "good" model years. That's not to say that there could be boats better than others.
Perhaps, a trustworthy surveyor could enlighten on this topic.
That being said, I think it's unfair to paint a certain year's boats with a broad brush. A well looked after and solid boat will show well against others that haven't had good quality care! Take the time to look around at several boats, either for sale, or in their slip at a marina. I'm certain you'll immediately notice quite a cross section of boats.
Just my 2 cents!
Eric[This message has been edited by Eric (edited January 07, 2004).]
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whited
unregistered
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posted January 07, 2004 10:54 PM
i've heard that 1991 was the last year Sandpipers were produced.
If you come across that perfect 'creampuff'
be sure to let me know.
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Darcy
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posted January 08, 2004 12:01 AM
Good point Eric. There is a Sandpiper near our cottage that has been sitting outside, bow tilted up for years. I'm sure water, ice and snow has worked at the fittings and joints. It's a shame to see a neglected boat.I know when I sailed Lasers that some years were considered better than others. Our first 2 Lasers in the late 70s were excellent; nice and stiff. The weight of Sharks seems to vary from year to year and builder to builder. The ones closer to the minimum weight were preferred by racers. Some also had lighter ends. D'Arcy
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Canadian Sailor
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posted January 08, 2004 05:18 PM
From what I've heard, boats made in the 70s had more fiberglass in the hull because oil was cheaper back then.------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."
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whited
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posted January 08, 2004 09:51 PM
It was in the early 70's that the oil prices went through the roof and there were shortages. Maybe '72 or '73.
Any other 'oldtimers' remember?
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Celtic Kiss
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posted January 09, 2004 12:41 PM
I heard that the reasoning why boats from the '70's are so strong is because the true strength of fibreglass was a bit of an unknown back then. Thus to compensate the builders really "slapped in on" to make sure the strength was there. Maybe the same methodology should be used with the new generation of carbon-fibre boats. Remember the America's Cup disasters etc.------------------
Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120
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Darcy
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posted January 09, 2004 12:48 PM
I remember that first oil shortage. I don't know if I like the term "oldtimer" though. I think I prefer "Geezer"(Said with tongue firmly in cheek).The other thing that happened in the 70's was more on the science of fiberglas was known so boats could be built lighter but just as strong. Sometimes this led to some real disasters like rotted hulls caused by spray foam not allowing water to drain. D'Arcy
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Celtic Kiss
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posted January 09, 2004 09:47 PM
On a point of science advancement. At one time people thought it was a great idea to place fibreglass over a wooden hull but this seemed to create a whole new set of problems. Noe that boat builders have more knowledge, is it a good idea to place fibreglass over a wooden hull??------------------
Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120
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whited
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posted January 09, 2004 11:26 PM
A while back this product seemed to be popular.
Not sure if that is still the case.
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