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Topic: Oversized stern rails on Piper
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whited
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posted April 25, 2004 09:47 AM
As I surf the net looking for my 'Piper, I notice that later models seem to have oversized stern rails and maybe pulpits also.
Anyone know if this is the norm?
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piper576
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posted April 25, 2004 11:00 AM
Sorry cant help you with the stern rails my piper only has bow pulpit, although it looks a little large it seems to be the norm.I have thought about stern rails but am not to sure if I will as they would get in way when fastening down my boom tent, wich now fastens quite tightly over and around the sides of my cockpit. In lieu of stern rails, I am considering attaching two stainless rings on the deck just to either side of the companion way and a steel cable running from them up to a third one located just ahead of the forward hatch. This would give me a place to secure sliding life-lines which would allow access from stern to bow, while being securely teathered to the boat - just in case .
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whited
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posted April 25, 2004 01:14 PM
Where did you get your boom tent? Is it practical?
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Darcy
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posted April 26, 2004 09:11 AM
 
"Short Wave" has a stearn rail and life lines. It gives the boat the look of a jaunty micro yacht capable of sailing anywhere. I'm slightly biased, but I think they look great.I have never sailed on a boat of this size before with rails and life lines. Sharks, dragons, etc. don't use them. You feel very secure in the "Short Wave" cockpit. Non sailing guests always feel better with them as do big boat sailors who are used to having them. I've known of several sailors who were knocked overboard while trying to start their motors in a squall (one drowned). Although the stearn rail would seem to be in the way when you're starting the motor, I think the extra rail to lean on or grab would be a definite plus when it comes to safety. D'Arcy
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whited
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posted April 26, 2004 10:38 AM
Agree. I had bow pulpit, stern rail and lifeline on my new '83 Sandpiper.
The wife felt much safer then, and now she won't sail on my CL14.
She thinks you sit too close to the water.
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Ken
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posted April 26, 2004 02:11 PM
I bought a boom tent from CL but sold it after a year. It was too restrictive and dark inside for my liking. It was good quality 'tho and wonderfull weat weather protection for overnights on Georgian Bay....with 3 windows, a screen etc. It had four notches in it to allow fitting around the stern pulpit (pushpit?) uprights.
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Eric
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posted April 26, 2004 07:29 PM
I'm still undecided on the whole stern rail idea for my 'piper. I want one for sort of different reasons however  .
I want somewhere to hang a life ring/heaving line. I would also like the ability to mount a BBQ.
What's holding me back, is the ease at which I can access my motor(plus the cost  ). Also, I think the rail across the stern of the boat would hinder re-boarding from my swim ladder. We swim, or at least my kids swim  , off the boat alot in the summer.
I've been toying with the idea of making small hand rails, "D" shaped, that would fit the rear section of the coaming, over the cleats. I have seen pics of little Hunters, Catalinas, that have a similar arrangement, and thus do not have a rail running across the stern. This leaves access to the ladder and motor.
My concern with my idea is fixing these rails solid. I'd have to have quite beefed up backing plates, in case they get knocked from the side.
Perhaps I'll have to get to see D'Arcy's Shortwave, and get a real "feel" for how the full size rail fits! 
Eric,
Sandiper #144This message has been edited by Eric (edited April 26, 2004).] Darn emoticons [This message has been edited by Eric (edited April 26, 2004).]
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Ken
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posted April 28, 2004 08:33 AM
On ShortWave the rigid aluminum boarding ladder hooked onto the stb'd cockpit coaming.
The stern rail did not pose a motor access priblem at all. In fact, it gives yoiu something to hold on to when tilting it up for sailing. I fought with flag pole positioning on the stern railing and finally installed two clips onto the topping lift for our Canadian flag. It's mounted about 3 ft above the boom and catches better air there anyway. Anyway, traditionally the flag should be flown from the leech of the mains'l. This was as close to the traditional location as I could do. By the way, the poor little white light on the stb'd stern coaming is not very visible through it's intended arc. I installed a bigger brighter light up high on the backside of the port stern stanchion. That in conjunction with a masthead navigation red/green light makes a little boat look like a big one in Humber Bay at night. Don't forget to mount a white steaming light on the front of the mast at the spreader level to switch on when under engine power. We installed a centre off switch...to select either the masthead light or the lower nav lights on the boat's coach house. We used the lower nav lights while motoring inside the harbour.
The only problem with this arrangement is that the compass light can only be powered from one side of the centre off nav light switch. I always meant to install steering diodes to "rectify" this problem. We'll leave this wiring modification to D'Arcy........
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whited
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posted April 28, 2004 01:29 PM
Did I say 'my new '83 Sandpiper'?
Is that a Fruedian slip??It was actually a 'new '83 Siren', I owned back then.
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whited
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posted April 28, 2004 08:01 PM
Just had my '95 Voyager's transmission serviced and a Tru-Cool LPD transmission oil cooler installed, as I gear up for a May hunting expedition for my 'Piper.
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