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Topic: Sandpiper sails
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elmet3
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posted September 27, 2003 12:08 PM
I got a mainsail and a genoa when I bought my Sandpiper. I am thinking of buying a working jib, the genoa makes life too exciting when the wind picks up. Does anybody have any thoughts or experience in using these two sails on the Sandpiper? At what wind speed do you prefer the working jib?
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Eric
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posted September 28, 2003 05:39 PM
 
Hi elmet3. Sorry I can't answer your question 100%. My 'piper came with a roller furler headsail. It is "oversized". The PO bought a ready made sail and it's so large when unfurled that I don't run the sheets through the genoa blocks!! Needless to say I have it partly furled when the wind gets up to 5-10~. Trouble is sail shape begins to suffer if it's furled too much. But it's so darned convenient and easy to use!!
I also got a full suit of hank on head sails, working jib, a genoa (with a foot long tear on the lower leech), a storm jib, and a spinnaker(big grin here)! From what I can see by their size, I'd say a working jib will keep the boat moving well, at a less "stressfull" rate, in winds over 10knots.
I want to try out the working jib, for reasons stated, proper shape! I'll rig a downhaul with my furling line in case it has to be doused in a hurry!
I hope the weather stays dry in the last remaining weeks of the season, so I can try it out. Cheers, Eric
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Richard
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posted September 29, 2003 10:03 AM
Hi Eric,
Is your furler the standard one for the Sandpiper?
I'm asking because I didn't think the furler mine came with could be used for reefing.
Thanks, Richard.
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SuperPiper
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posted September 29, 2003 12:46 PM
Richard:I am not sure how to identify the 2 typical furlers. I suppose that one is a drum furler and the other is a "continuous rope" (?)furler. My 'piper has the continuous rope type (the continuouse rope died long ago and I need to run to the foredeck and twist the sail luff). The drum type does allow reefing. The other type does not. We could both use a drum reefing/furler. Maybe Santa Claus . . .
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Eric
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posted September 29, 2003 02:20 PM
Richard my furler is a drum type. It is aftermarket, not a CL OEM as I understand it. Furling head sails can only be reefed so far and then their shape starts to suffer. As I understand it, efficiency is lost! For instance, if it is furled from 150 to lets say 110, (using round #'s) they sail shape is not the same as say a proper hanked on sail. I haven't had first hand account of a hanked on sail yet, I'm going on what others have told me, and what I've read. I can tell you though, that when I reef alot the sail looks like crap!Superpiper, I think that the type of furling you're talking about is a "Code Zero" furler. I think they're more used for racing. Can you change sails on it or is the sail attached to a wire stay? Eric
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SuperPiper
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posted September 30, 2003 05:23 AM
My jib and my genoa each have a wire luff. The sails tack into the furler using a clevis pin or a shackle. There is a swivel on the halyard. The swivel also has a clevis pin & split ring but the previous owner included a shackle here too.The Code Zero furler will slip if there is any load on the sail. Your drum type is capable of locking in a reefed position. The foresail halyard had been wire and rope. There is a Highfield lever on the mast exactly where the wire halyard ended when the sails were hoisted. I have changed to rope halyards and still use the Highfield to tension the halyard. I have seen other Sandpipers with winches on the cabin top for the halyards. What have you got, Eric.
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Eric
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posted October 02, 2003 08:04 AM
Hey Super P, sounds like my set is similar, with the following exceptions: when i raise the mast, the roller furler sail is the forestay, with the wire luff. I don't have a Highfield.
I would like to see a Sandpiper with a cabin top winch to see how it is fitted. Not a lot of room there. I think Ken's Shortwave has one.
For me, the winch would be good for tensioning the main, as sometimes the last foot or so is difficult to raise and tension.
For now it's an "armstrong" set up!!Eric
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