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Topic: Trailer re-do**picture post**
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Eric
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posted September 03, 2004 07:07 PM
 
I finally couldn't take it anymore. There was so much flakey rust and peeled old paint. When I came home last week from a short sailing trip, I elected to leave the boat in the water. Excellent opportunity to repaint the trailer!Before:  Someone ( a PO ) had slapped a coat of black paint on the trailer some time ago. Never did the underside, and probably didn't prime! I went at it with my grinder and 2 cup brushes. Anything loose or flakey was gone!  A coat of red oxide primer.  I brushed on the first coat of paint all over, in all the nooks a crannies. Then to make it look better, I went at it with 2 coats of spray!   I've got to purchase new nuts and bolts and re-attach everything. Should be good to go;D
Now the trailer matches my wheels, which I refinished in the winter! Eric
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whited
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posted September 03, 2004 10:00 PM
What i can see of it sure does look prety. Colour blue is similar to D'Arcy's boat.
If I did all fresh water sailing, I'd do the same. I can see a new galvanized trailer in my future.
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Shortstay
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posted September 03, 2004 10:45 PM
Wow, Eric. That looks fantastic. For your next vacation week, could you come to my place & do my trailer???  What did you do about the trailer VIN? Cover it with tape? ------------------
Kevin
Shortstay III, #901
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Eric
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posted September 03, 2004 11:39 PM
Thanks for the kind words! I don't want to do this job too often. It cut into good sailing time!!Hey Don, best part is, shopping for the trailer bits I need may take me to Princess Auto  The colour is Dark Blue Tremclad. I thought it would be darker tho. Still, it's better than the old black . Kevin, I was on days off! I'm working this weekend  ! I taped over the label. Can't hardly make anything out, to be honest. When I peel the tape, I'll try and have a good look. Good thought. Oh ya... umm, I'm busy that week Eric
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windy island
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posted September 04, 2004 12:24 AM
Wow is right. You did a great job. How long did it take? I also painted mine two weeks ago. I didn’t take any photos. I didn’t do as good a job as you. Mine is a similar trailer. Mine was an ugly green. Now it’s the same tremclad blue. I only had only three evenings. I masked most everything and used the Canadian Tire spay cans. It is a great improvement. Maybe in a few years, I’ll do a proper job as you did. My trailer had 12” wheels with a 2000 pound axel. My springs were shot, flat and level. I had a trailer shop change the axel to a 3500 pound and changed to 13” wheels. They also moved the axel back so now I can lower the keel all the way down if I back on a 2” X 4”. The keel is down on the trailer now. I’ll clean it before my Sunday sail and next Saturday I plan to grease the treads on the screw. I’ve read all the instructions on the forum. Thank you all.On Tuesday I’m traveling to Newport Rhode Island for two or three days. I love dropping into West Marine and walking the docks there. They have a great book store called “The Armchair Sailor” Maybe I’ll buy a book that will help my sailing. One day, I’d like to trailer Windy Island down for a sail.
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posted September 04, 2004 04:33 PM
Not sure if I already mentioned this... but speaking of Princess Auto, I used my trailer dolly for the first time this week and was it ever easy backing the trailer down. Even though my driveway slants backward on a noticable incline I can control the boat if I don't let it get rolling. At a stop I was actually able to pull it uphill with maximum effort. (I'd better get my Bowflex set up and start to use it.)
My mom paid for my canvas cover and the wife/mother-in-law chipped in to buy the dolly.....all for my birthday last week.
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Eric
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posted September 04, 2004 07:15 PM
Hey, hey, you let cat out of the bag !!Happy Birthday Don! Eric
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posted September 04, 2004 11:53 PM
Thank you...thank you very much!
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Shortstay
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posted September 05, 2004 12:29 AM
Don, congratulations & felicitations on the anniversary of your nativity.And I hope your bowel condition eases in the coming year!
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posted September 05, 2004 10:35 PM
Are you saying I'm 'full of it'? :-)
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Shortstay
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posted September 06, 2004 11:41 AM
I would never say you're full of it. I'm just concerned about that condition you mentioned that flares up with polysyllabic words!
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whited
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posted September 06, 2004 01:52 PM
I guess it just might be time for this old dog to learn a few new words!
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Eric
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posted September 10, 2004 06:55 AM
My baby has a new ride Well, at least a reconditioned ride  All of the rusties are gone!!  That's it! Should be good to go for a while now. New paint, new bunks, new tires & spare, new coupler, new chains, new wire harness, with soldered connections, jack, winch and strap! I also added the custom mud flaps. The do wonders for keeping the hull clean! Don, they're from Princess Auto! Whew! This poor old trailer was just a yard trailer when I got her. The PO kept the boat in a marina, and the trailer was neglected. The bearings were done immediately, followed by a jack and winch. The bulk of the work was this year. For me the trailer is very important! It gets me to many fine sailing destinations, and without it, I don't sail! Eric [This message has been edited by Eric (edited September 10, 2004).]
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Hyprstitch
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posted September 10, 2004 07:52 AM
Hello Eric, I hope the next pictures are on the water.Sid
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posted September 10, 2004 09:13 AM
That's some fancy trailer. Were your bunks always curved to hull shape? Seems like all the ones I usually see are flat.
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Eric
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posted September 10, 2004 11:50 AM
Don, yes they curve OK! The last 10" or so aft doesn't make contact with the hull though. I suspect if they were to curve that much, the bunks would hinder loading the boat on the trailer, as they would be too high, in the way. I think flat bunks are more common on flat bottom boats, ie Catalina 22, or power boats.What you see in the pic I was able to do by hand, or butt as the case may be . I sat on the middle support to get the deflection. After I loaded the boat, I put a jack under the fore and aft supports to get more bend. The bunks are just pressure treated 2x4. I want to get some of those new amber plastic rollers in the off season. Tell me, as a recent shopper of Sandpiper's, what kind of impact would or does a trailer like mine have on your buying decision? I realize you're buying a boat, not just a trailer, but comparing my old to new, and what you saw on the market. I guess it depends if you want to trailer a bit. Just trying to justify some of my work with my wife, who says "it's just a boat trailer!" In my mind the trailer is a major consideration, like sails, motor, and rigging etc. I'm just trying to keep my trailer sailor up to date as best I can! Thanks. Eric [This message has been edited by Eric (edited September 10, 2004).]
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whited
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posted September 10, 2004 03:15 PM
To me, it was a big consideration. The price of a new galvanized trailer + tax is $ 2 grand. That must be equivalent to the price of a new 6 hp outboard.
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Hyprstitch
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posted September 10, 2004 09:01 PM
I think you did good, painting cost no where as much as a new trailer. I know, my new one by the time it was all over with was over 2 grand.
And I bought a new motor, and upholsterd the cabin.
Built a mast raising system. And may want new sails soon. We got to have our toys or its not worth working our butts off. Sid
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Shortstay
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posted September 12, 2004 12:12 AM
My baby has a new rideEric, could you compete this story by posting a couple of pix of how she looks back on the refurbished trailer?
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Eric
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posted September 16, 2004 01:09 AM
Ask, and you shall receive !!I snapped this in the early evening Weds. We've also officially named her now as well Only took 4 years! Say hello to Paradise!! Proper Christening to take place this weekend, if the weather holds!  Eric
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Hyprstitch
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posted September 16, 2004 07:49 AM
I think I've already told you that you have a great looking boat. Name fits the boat. I'm trying to get out of what I'm supposed to be doing this weekend to go sailing. Looks like our weather is going to turn to $%^$% on Monday. Sid
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Patrick Crooks
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posted April 26, 2005 09:31 AM
Hello Eric,I was looking at your post from September 16. That's a beautiful boat you have there. I have a couple of questions for you. 1)What are you or were you using as a rubrail in that picture. I've taken mine off because it was rotten and I'm now looking at about $200.00 to replace. I'm open to suggestions. 2) What type of anti-fouling is on the boat in that picture, and are you still using it and would you recommend it. Thanx in advance. Patrick
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Eric
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posted April 26, 2005 12:41 PM
Hi Patrick. Thank you for the kind words .That rub rail you see is in the landfill now! It was a weather strip for garage doors. It was made of a vinyl, with a flexable rubber trim on one edge. The previous owner of my boat installed it, probably for the reasons you mentioned. After 4 years of it, I decided to get rid of it.
I priced out new 1x2 teak, for $200, as you mentioned. Kinda pricey, but it's original wood. I was going to look for mahogany as a less expensive alternative. If I recall, I could obtain the equivelent quantity of mahogany for way under $100. I've been told that mahogany is an acceptable all weather wood. In my case however, I was able to obtain some unwanted teak rub rail from a Sandpiper. Thanks to Superpiper and this forum .
I also drilled out, and used a countersink, on all the old screw holes. The PO only caulked up his old holes, and I think a couple used to leak, because if I was in yeehaw mode, all heeled over, I could see dribbles of water in my cabin loker, streaming down from the screw holes. Once the hole where cleaned out, I epoxied them. Now my hull deck joint has epoxy fasteners as well as the factory rivets holding it together You might see the filled holes in this pic.
 The anti fouling is VC17. My boat used to be slipped. Again the PO used VC17, and I carried on. I think it's a great paint. When I slipped her, I only had a little bit of slime at haulout, which is normal. Vc17 doesn't have a build up like other bottom paints. Re application in spring is easy, just clean, wipe with a scotchbrite pad or fine sandpaper, and apply the paint. (Wear a respirator mask when sanding, powerwashing and applying the paint)
When it is freshly applied, and for a little while after, it is a copper colour, then turns the brownish colour you see. I don't keep her in a slip anymore, but re-apply VC17 once in a while, to keep it looking decent. I really don't want to tackle removing it all. It would be a chore with the boat on the trailer!
Hope this helps.
Eric
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Eric
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posted April 26, 2005 12:46 PM
BTW, speaking of trailers, Princess Auto had a sail on boat trailer rollers. I should have warned you all sooner, sorry.
Anyway, I got two new rollers for the centre of the trailer for $8 ea. My old ones are starting to split, so the next time the boat is launched I'll change out the keel rollers.Eric
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Windroos
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posted April 26, 2005 08:31 PM
This week end I will post pictures of a set of guides I installed on my trailer. They keep the boat at the right place upon retrieval. They are easy to install and are well protected in order not to damage the side rails.You'll also see a piece of metal coming from the front winch that goes up and hold the mast in the front of the trailer. Hope for a little bit of sun for the pict. ------------------
John
Quebec city
1981 Sandpiper 927
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Eric
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posted April 27, 2005 06:51 AM
I'll watch for those pics John.
It seems we all have different trailers. In my case the widest beam is over my wheels. I would love to put on trailer guides. Anytime there's a cross breeze at a ramp, or if the ramp is uneven, trailer guides would be ideal!
I'm not sure how effective they would be if I had to mount them just ahead of my wheels. I may have to make a set, and just clamp them on to my frame, and do a dunk test. Once I find the right location, then fix them to the frame.
Eric
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Hyprstitch
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posted April 27, 2005 08:34 AM
I did to unwrap my boat and take a few pictures of my triler. Had it custom built about a little over a year ago. Sid
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windy island
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posted April 27, 2005 12:33 PM
Eric, do you ever use the tilting option when you launch or load, or can you usually back in deep enough to glide on and winch the rest of the way. I have the same trailer as you and was thinking of a tongue extension. I don't have the bunks, just the 4 pads. I've not tried the tilt option yet.
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