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Topic: Leaky CL16
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Sunday Sailor
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posted September 22, 2002 09:00 PM
 
Does anyone here have experience with stopping leaks in a CL16?I have an older CL16 that's left in the water through the summer months. Every 3 to 5 days I have to bail out the bilge because it will collect 4 or 5 inches of water in it (measured through the access port at the keel bolt). This water collects even if the boat is unused in the period and even when there has been no rain. If it were easy to bail out, I wouldn't worry about it. But it's a pain to have to manually drain it to the aft-lazarette and then bail it from there. Anyone have ideas on where this water might be coming from and how to stop the leak? Could it be leaking at the cockpit bailers? FWIW, the keel bolt appears not to be the source of the leak: there's no visible leak there. ------------------
Hardalee !
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Celtic Kiss
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posted September 23, 2002 02:17 AM
Hmmmmmm I was going to suggest the keelbolt. If you're sure it is not that, I'd check the drainplug on the transom. (That was my problem a few years ago) Make sure it's really tight. You may also want to check the underhull for a hairline fracture in the fibreglass. Put the boat on the trailer, fill the bilge with water and see where the water is leaking OUT of the boat.
Good Luck 
Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120
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Tom D CL16
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posted September 23, 2002 02:53 PM
My keel bolt was the cause of my leaks and I didn't think it was the source. Take it out and check the rubber washers reverse them and tighten it up a little more than before.
ELSE you got a problem. Good luck with that much water a hull leak should be easy to find.
tom d
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Sunday Sailor
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posted September 23, 2002 08:41 PM
I guess I'll have to explore ALL possibilities. Is it best to check the keel bolt with the boat in the water or on the trailer? Does anyone have experience with the cockpit bailers? Is it possible that they are leaking? I tried tightening the nuts that hold them, but it made NO difference to the amount of water found in the boat a few days later. ------------------
Hardalee !
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Celtic Kiss
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posted September 24, 2002 12:45 PM
SS:To check the keel-bolt I find it best to have the boat in the water. Simply remove the inspection ports and watch for leaks. Though the bolts appear tight, the rubber washers on the bolts may be old and cracked. While doing that you may also want to open the stern lazarette and watch the drain-plug for a trickle of water. Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120
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Sunday Sailor
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posted September 24, 2002 09:08 PM
There are NO problems with the drain plugs to my lazarette. The lazarette stays nice and dry.I just purchased this boat this year. I know that the previous owner replaced the centreboard sometime in the previous couple of years. I assume that new washers were used (or at least the washers were still servicable) at the time. However, I guess it's always possible that the leak _could_ be here. It's just that no matter how much I've checked, I've never been able to discern any leak at this location. I'll check it out (weather permitting) and report back next week. ------------------
Hardalee !
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CL 'CL16 1698' Nelson
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posted September 27, 2002 03:04 PM
The problem that I've had with my own CL 16 (for over a decade that I can recall--I've owned the boat for over two decades now, but you know how those decades kind of merge after awhile, or you will find out if you're lucky to live long enough) is that I've had a 'top-down' leak somewhere. I've never been ambitious enough to seek it out and stop it; I just pump the boat from the centerboard access port (when it's moored) or tip it on the trailer to drain it, and that's only after a rain. It's never been a problem to pump from that port, although I admit it is inconvenient.I also know it's not a hull leak because the boat's inner hull will get wet when it's on the trailer, even when the entire cockpit is covered by a tarp. Obviously, that water's not coming in through the centerboard pivot bolt or anything else under the waterline. And it's not enough water to get excited about. In my own experience you have to have the boat pretty well loaded to get the transom drain underwater. Even then, if you keep the lazarette-to-inner hull plug in place, water would accumulate in the laz but not go any further for'ard. Why not take a hose to the inner hull while the boat's on its trailer and see where the water comes OUT? Yes, you'll be putting a few hundred pounds of water in the boat, but if you're comfortable being in the boat on the trailer yourself, that shouldn't be an issue. Cheers,
Chris
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Tom D CL16
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posted September 27, 2002 08:12 PM
Watch out! I had water in the hull between the hull and cockpit sole. The problem was that in older boats the side compartments and bottom compartment are not separated.
While opening the side to repair a chain plate; the foam in the side compartment was WET. I have had the boat 3 years and trailer it and store it in the garage. One of the previous owners kept it moored. I believe that water got into the bilge and eventually soaked up into the foam. CL told me that newer boats had these compartments separated. Also that the joint between the hull and deck plate could be separated enough that sailing with excessive heel that water could get into the side compartments.
If any of you are interested I saved his Email explaining this to me. Let me know and I will Email a copy to you.
Tom D
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