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CoolBreeze
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posted March 15, 2005 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBreeze   Click Here to Email CoolBreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, we have a thread started with some different products, but here it is:

I am completely stripping the bottom half of the hull this year, as it is peeling in some places and being new to the boat, I have no idea what was put on in the past. Since I am going to do all this work, I'm throwing this out to see what people think. This would include someone saying "if I did it again..." or "I just used.... and found that ..."

I am really just looking for any feedback, I initial thought would be I am willing to buy just about anything that works well, and has good value.... My hull is very solid and is dry as a bone with no issues.

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Rob Belliveau
1976 Sandpiper 565
"CoolBreeze"
Halifax NS
Dartmouth Yacht Club

IP: 142.176.14.228

Eric
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posted March 15, 2005 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rob, are you keeping her on the trailer, or on a mooring? If you plan to mostly keep Coolbreeze on the trailer, and just keeping her in the water for a few days, or even a week at a time, I personally wouldn't bother to apply antifouling. Then again, I don't know how fast "stuff" grows in saltwater. Since I have no issues with my bottom, I have chosen not to strip the VC17 Paradise came to me with. The last couple of seasons I have kept Paradise on the trailer. Last year I applied one coat, for looks, as it was getting blotchy, and didn't look good. My other rationale is, that I'm "ready" should I decide to leave her in the water for a good part of the season.
So my answer is depends!!
Eric

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2short S565
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posted March 15, 2005 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2short S565     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I started stripping my bottom a couple of years ago to clean it up and put fresh antifoul.

Job went from scraping which worked so-so, to sanding for a better job then ended up going to Interprotect 2000 barrier coating (7 coats)with VC-17 antifoul.

Sanding will likely end up going thru the gel coat. Once you do that you have to barrier coat. The gel coat can be very thin.

VC-17 rocks. It is easy to apply, maintain and even remove (use paint reducer to just wipe it off). With VC-17 your boat can be removed from the water indefinitey without the VC-17 lossing it effectiveness and requiring to redone like most antifouls. When put in the water it becomes very slippery, reducing drag.

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Darcy
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posted March 16, 2005 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darcy   Click Here to Email Darcy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Eric Rob. Shortwave is in the water all the time. We put a coat of VC-17 on in the Spring (as we will this Spring). The hull stays very clean. It's a hard (fast) finish.

If I was dry sailing I'd go with just the fiberglas. Although, based on the age of your boat you might want to seal the hull to protect it from blistering. Shortwave is sealed with VC Tar. Interprotect is also a good product.

D'Arcy

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posted March 16, 2005 09:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I plan on leaving my bottom as is (fibreglass)
because I plan to dry sail it this year. If I get tired of launching and running the roads, I just might join a club and use a mooring. Then I'll be doing the bottom coating.

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Canadian Sailor
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posted March 16, 2005 12:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no clue what I'm saying right here, it's just something that has suddenly popped into my mind as a vague memory.... isn't anti-fouling highly toxic and should probably best be applied by professionals?

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posted March 16, 2005 02:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if it's as bad as in the past. Most people around here apply their own. My concern was with the sanding of the old coating.

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CoolBreeze
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posted March 16, 2005 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBreeze   Click Here to Email CoolBreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is going to be in the SALT water all season. I just got into a local yacht club. So, with her staying in, I definately have to do something.

How well does all of the old paint have to be removed?? I see the mention of sanding right down. Is this only for the VC 17? Or for all paints?

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Darcy
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posted March 16, 2005 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darcy   Click Here to Email Darcy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VC-17 is what is referred to as an aggressive coating. It drys almost as fast as you can put it on. It may do all sorts of weird things when it comes in contact with old paint (like melt it into a gooey mess!) I would follow the manufacturers' directions exactly which I believe calls for the paint to be completely removed.

D'Arcy

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posted March 16, 2005 06:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rob...did you join the Dartmouth Yacht Club?
They fixed it up pretty nice after the 2003 hurricane.

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CoolBreeze
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posted March 16, 2005 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBreeze   Click Here to Email CoolBreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I did, paper are all official as of a couple weeks ago. Looks as though I will have a marina, not a mooring as well. sO I am needless to say, looking forward to not only my boat, but the club too. Drop me a line at robertbelliveau @ eastlink.ca
(remove the spaces) sometime soon, we should meet up and trade notes!!! I'm in the north end Halifax.

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Rob Belliveau
1976 Sandpiper 565
"CoolBreeze"
Halifax NS
Dartmouth Yacht Club

IP: 24.215.107.164

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posted March 17, 2005 09:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will do! Looks like I'll stay covered for another month & a half.

You have a really nice ramp there for drysailing at Dartmouth.
It would be fun to launch my boat at Seaview Park and meet up with you for a mini-cruise either all around the Basin, or out around MacNab's Island. With our keels up and high tide we could pass between MacNab's & Lawler Islands. That's something I've never done.

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CoolBreeze
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posted March 17, 2005 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBreeze   Click Here to Email CoolBreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don, send me an email, I'll give you my ph number...

Seaview Park... I've launched there once, never again, unless in a super pinch, which I will never be in since I am at a Club now. I'll tell you about it later.

I'm definately game for a sailing day. Send me that email, I'll give you a call...

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Rob Belliveau
1976 Sandpiper 565
"CoolBreeze"
Halifax NS
Dartmouth Yacht Club

IP: 24.215.107.164

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