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posted May 16, 2005 09:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
D'oh!
Just got the latest Princess Auto flyer with my morning paper. They now have the 15 GPM Guzzler
with 1.5" hose adapters on sale for $ 59.95.
What to do...keep the smaller version, or take it back and buy the bigger?
Has anyone had much problem with following seas swamping the lazarette?

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Ken
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posted May 16, 2005 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Swamping seas never occured on ShortWave. The laz does tend to collect water which overflows the cockpit seat drains in extremely heavy rains. You don't want to find your battery submerged or the gas tank floating. That's why we had a pump in there. If you don't regularly remove the water accumulation, some will seep forward into the two small underseat lockers.

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elmet3
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posted May 16, 2005 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elmet3   Click Here to Email elmet3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having a bilge pump is a good idea, I guess it can't hurt. But in three years, with my boat in the water all summer, i have never had water in the boat except a little that came into lazarette when the seat drains got plugged. I have a couple buckets in case i need to bail some water out. Are you sure you need a bigger pump?

I have never been out in conditions that approached getting swamped. I guess you sail in bigger water than I do.

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Darcy
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posted May 17, 2005 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darcy   Click Here to Email Darcy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The biggest waves we get are from inconsiderate power boats. (Quite formidable at times.) We can get a very steep but short chop on our lake and Lake Ontario. The boat falls off the wave rather than surfs down it.

Based on our limited experience and comments from Sandpiper sailors before we bought the boat it would seem our boats handle waves extremely well. We've never even been close to taking on water and if you did, it would stay in the cockpit. You could keep sailing (I'd close up the hatch in rough weather though.) The cockpit is a very dry place to be.

All that being said, I'd tend to go big on the pump. Before owning a Sandpiper, I sailed on Dragons and the like. Boats that are in serious trouble when they take on water (Sometimes they sink.) Always nice to have a pump that really sucks.

D'Arcy

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Eric
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posted May 17, 2005 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reading this thread, reminds me of the series of pictures that circulated the internet of the guy in San Fransisco, who chose to sail on the wrong side of the Golden Gate Bridge support. Remember that. He got himself caught in the surf, and the boat went ass over tea kettle. The cockpit got swamped! No guzzler pump would have saved his sorry butt .

Personally I've not seen a need to equip Paradise with a pump. Any water in the lazzerrete is easily sponged out. Maybe I'm lucky

Eric

[This message has been edited by Eric (edited May 17, 2005).]

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Roger
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posted May 18, 2005 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
caution caution caution, on the next size up. It is really difficult to find hose to match that pump, so I have been told. If you find it great, buy more than you need because it is an odd size. The upside is that you will be able to move more water.

And no this is not sour grapes! Although I had already installed my smaller guzzler, when I saw the flyer I was tempted to trade it in for the larger size, until I could not find a local supplier for the size of hose that I needed. When comparing notes with another sailer, they related the same problem.

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