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Topic: May have taken the last sail of the season
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Hyprstitch
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posted November 06, 2005 11:22 PM
   
Went sailing on Carter Lake today. It was cool and overcast. But a Great day of sailing. Don't know that I need to again this season. Might not be able to have as good a day. Sid [This message has been edited by Hyprstitch (edited November 07, 2005).] IP: 207.200.116.203 |
Hyprstitch
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posted November 07, 2005 12:46 AM
I forgot to mention that the guy that went sailing with me is a customer of mine. I just finished a set of cushions in his boat. He has a Rob Roy 23. A really nice boat. He could not get over how well the Sandpiper sails. Does most everything better than his.Here is a picture of his boat  [This message has been edited by Hyprstitch (edited November 07, 2005).] IP: 207.200.116.203 |
Eric
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posted November 07, 2005 11:25 AM
Cool Sid!
That Rob Roy looks to be cutter rigged, guessing, since there's a sprit.Got a pic of her undersail? You could probably blow his doors off, any ole' day of the week  Eric IP: 130.63.85.93 |
Shortstay
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posted November 07, 2005 02:17 PM
Gorgeous boat!IP: 198.115.167.10 |
Shortstay
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posted November 07, 2005 02:34 PM
A quick websearch turned up the manufacturers info page and more pix:"The Rob Roy 23 is a classic canoe yawl, a true pocket cruiser designed by Ted Brewer. She opens up a new world of sailing. Her dry weight of 2500 lbs with 19" draft offer the trailering ability normally associated with much smaller boats..." [This message has been edited by Shortstay (edited November 07, 2005).] IP: 198.115.167.46 |
whited
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posted November 07, 2005 02:39 PM
Maybe...if you have a tow vehicle strong enough to pull it around.IP: 142.167.230.201 |
elmet3
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posted November 07, 2005 05:52 PM
This looks like a "double ender" to me. I thought a canoe yawl was characteristically very narrow beam. The Rob Roy is not wide, but not extremely narrow.
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Darcy
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posted November 07, 2005 09:52 PM
We absolutely love classic styled boats. As anyone who read my posts will realize, it took us a couple of years to come to a decision on what boat to buy. We initially were looking at traditional “jaunty” craft like the Rob Roy. You've gotta love this kind of interior.
 We also looked at Catboats.
 And Cat yawls.
 However, two factors came into play when we finally made our decision: As Kevin points out they were all quite heavy and deep in draft, which makes trailering and launching a lot harder. You can see why a Sandpiper moves so much faster when you look at the hull shape. The second point is cost. Although these boats were beautifully finished, they cost four or five times more than a Sandpiper. When it came time to purchase a boat, our racing background came back to haunt us. We went with a more efficient lighter design. I guess we're just minimalists at heart. Although slightly biased, I personally feel Shortwave is also a very jaunty, proper yacht. She's elegant in her simplicity and pureness of form.
 D'Arcy, Shortwave
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posted November 07, 2005 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Shortstay:
A quick websearch turned up the manufacturers info page and more pix:"The Rob Roy 23 is a classic canoe yawl, a true pocket cruiser designed by Ted Brewer. She opens up a new world of sailing. Her dry weight of 2500 lbs with 19" draft offer the trailering ability normally associated with much smaller boats..." [This message has been edited by Shortstay (edited November 07, 2005).]
Maybe it's just the angle of the shot and the picture burning out a bit near the stern of the yacht, but it REALLY doesn't look like a yawl to me. Although, then again, I don't have that much experience telling boats apart, but I just don't really see where that mizzen fits. ------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." IP: 216.209.138.71 |
Hyprstitch
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posted November 07, 2005 10:06 PM
The guy who went with me is named Mark. He could not believe the small amount of wind needed to sail my boat, and how well it turns. The first time it was time to come about, he asked if we were going to Gybe or come about. Asked him which he wanted to do. Told him a Gybe was an easy thing to do on the Sandpiper. That is the only picture I took of the boat. But there is lots of room in the cabin. And now with my cushions in it, its even more beautiful. He is pulling it down to Tampa for the winter. I may have to fly down and go sailing with him. Sid IP: 207.200.116.203 |
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posted November 08, 2005 09:11 AM
I agree with D'Arcy.
Down here on the coast, I'd bet at least 80% of the sailboats are keelboats...and for good reason. If I planned to join a club and keep the boat in the water all summer at a mooring, I'd rather have something a bit bigger...and you can get half decent boats for only a couple of grand more than I paid for my 'Piper...
such as a Halman or Nordica 20...or even a Sirus. Since I want to trailer my boat between the ocean and local lakes....not to mention the Bras d'Or lakes in Cape Breton a couple times a year, the Sandpiper was the perfect fit. IP: 142.167.230.201 |
Darcy
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posted November 08, 2005 09:35 AM
I'm not sure if I can do this but her's a different view. It seems to be a canoe stern, ketch rig. I say ketch because the mizzen is ahead of the rudder post. It could easily be mistaken for a yawl though because the mizzen is so far back.
 D'Arcy, Shortwave
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Shortstay
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posted November 08, 2005 11:24 AM
With all due respect, D'Arcy, what I quoted above indicating a yawl rig comes straight from the manufacturers website. They should know, shouldn't they?Also, while strictly speaking I think your definition is correct, I've read in some places a yawl was defined just to mean the mizzen was stepped abaft of the tiller or wheel rather than rudder, per se. IP: 198.115.167.196 |
Darcy
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posted November 08, 2005 12:27 PM
No offence taken Kevin. I'm going by my (very hazy) recollection when I was tested for this while trying to get my 1st sailing standard in Junior Sailing. I believe that was in 1962.The way we remembered it then was if you're steering and the mizzen falls down. If you can catch it, you are on a ketch (get it; catch - ketch). Hopefully everyone is checking the boat identification chapter in their piloting and seamanship manual. D'Arcy, Shortwave "Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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Shortstay
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posted November 08, 2005 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Darcy:
... if you're steering and the mizzen falls down. If you can catch it, you are on a ketch...
That's a great mnemonic, D'Arcy! Thanks!Let me also register an "on-file" thank you for all your contributions to my nautical education here. As they say, you've probably forgotten more than I'll ever learn!  IP: 198.115.167.15 |
