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Topic: How Do You Bail Out The Locker in CL16 after Capsizing?
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Swiftsure
JuniorMember
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posted September 06, 2001 05:48 PM
   
We have recently purchased a brand new CL16 and have enjoyed sailing the CL16 for several years. We use the CL-16 for beginner teaching. We encountered a problem recently whereby we capsized in high winds. This is the first time ever have we encountered a full capsize. The stern compartment and cockpit filled completely with water and the stern basicly become submerged. After many attempts to bail the cockpit using boat motion and the auto-bailers we found ourselves swamped by yet another wave and the boat would again half submerge. The only way to resolve this problem was to slowly sail a half submerged boat a long distance, in high winds, to a dock, where we manually bailed the boat!! This was not very safe. Is there another technique we are missing? Is there inadequate foam/flotation in the stern compartment? Should more foam be installed to float the stern above water? Has anyone else had this problem and can you provide some advise?IP: 205.233.109.211 |
VBOLDUC
JuniorMember
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posted October 03, 2001 09:52 PM
Having capsized with my CL16 in high wind, I know what you have been through. I had to do the same thing you did and spent 45 minutes in the water to keep the boat level until we reached the shore. Only then was I able to bail out the stern locker. Since that, I installed plexiglass covers to seal the front storage compartment. The stern locker on the other hand is very hard to make water tight without modifying or completely replacing its cover. If anyone has a trick please let us know? After losing my false teeth due to "mild" hypothermia, I would be very happy to find a way to keep me and my crew from repeating this kind of swim.Sheers! IP: 207.96.136.223 |
whited
unregistered
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posted October 05, 2001 10:43 AM
Wow...now I'm glad I have the CL 14.
Less place for the water to invade.
If I had a Cl 16, I would probably think about the 'dry bags' or something like it, that the canoe, kayak people use.
You would blow the bag up to fill any cavity not required for storage and deflate it
when you needed the room. IP: 159.33.2.40 |
Rob Wierdsma
unregistered
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posted October 08, 2001 06:05 PM
Many veteran CL16 skippers have sealed the rear compartment with 1/2 noeprene weather stripping. 4 clips (similar to those used by Wayfarers) added at the corners to push the lid down keeps the rear compartment reasonable dry during capsize.[This message has been edited by Rob Wierdsma (edited October 08, 2001).] IP: 24.156.238.107 |
DT
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posted October 15, 2001 02:18 PM
I use collapsible water containers, intended I think for campers. I inflate as many as 5 to fill the locker. If I need the space for storage, I only have to deflate what is necessary. They are cheap - you can get them at Canadian Tire. I also have a manual bilge pump which I can use where ever required.IP: 24.102.114.141 |
mugwhumper
JuniorMember
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posted September 06, 2005 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by DT:
I use collapsible water containers, intended I think for campers. I inflate as many as 5 to fill the locker. If I need the space for storage, I only have to deflate what is necessary. They are cheap - you can get them at Canadian Tire. I also have a manual bilge pump which I can use where ever required.
I had the same problem this weekend after a capsize. I'm going to try the water containers - good idea! IP: 70.49.41.76 |
Steve
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posted September 10, 2005 07:10 AM
I like the idea of an inflating a large inner tube in the back compartment. It will replace what would otherwise be water, and can easily be deflated and removed - simple and effective.Long before I would consider any elaborate retrofitting, I think we might want to revisit how a capsize might occur. CL16s are very forgiving boats. In a CL16, you should not capsize unless you make fundamental mistakes - almost every one I've seen (including my 2 in early days) has been an accidental gybe to a broach with the centreboard too far or all the way down. You end up on the wrong side of the boom with your lovely boat, brakes on, rolling over you.
Into or beam to the wind - even strong winds - hiking out, luffing up, sheeting out and centreboard placement are all that is needed. At some point beyond this and a reefed main and storm jib, you should stay in port - plexiglass, neoprene, foamblocks or not. -Steve [This message has been edited by Steve (edited September 10, 2005).] IP: 216.198.140.85 | |
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