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mark
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posted July 16, 2004 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark   Click Here to Email mark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am looking to buy a CL 16 or a Wayfarer and am interested to know about any advantages/disadvantages one boat has over the other. From what I have gathered so far the hull is the same so does anyone have any information about where the boats differ. I will be sailing on Georgian Bay, recreational day sailing and the odd club race to see if I can beat the old Albacore that tools around on a Tuesday night

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whited
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posted July 16, 2004 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My impression was, the Wanderer had upgraded fittings & rigging and is more expensive.
The boys at CL might not agree.

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CL Staff
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posted July 17, 2004 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CL Staff   Click Here to Email CL Staff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark:

Coming from CL, I can tell you that the biggest difference is the rigging. I you want a rig that is equipped from the factory to be tweaked and pulled everyway you want it then a CL16 is not the best choice as you will have to rig all the goodies yourself. THey will sail about the same and hold their value the same. A W is more expensive out the factory door but you get more expensive, not always better, rigging.

Try sailing both and see what you think. I will be happy to answer anymore questions you may have as I have sailed both.

Cheers,

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Tom D CL16
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posted July 17, 2004 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom D CL16   Click Here to Email Tom D CL16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think the Wayfarer allows a trapeze for racing.
Tom D.

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mark
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posted July 19, 2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark   Click Here to Email mark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the insight. I am not too concerned about speciality rigging so I think that the out-of-the-box CL may be the way to go based on what you have told me.
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Originally posted by CL Staff:
Mark:

Coming from CL, I can tell you that the biggest difference is the rigging. I you want a rig that is equipped from the factory to be tweaked and pulled everyway you want it then a CL16 is not the best choice as you will have to rig all the goodies yourself. THey will sail about the same and hold their value the same. A W is more expensive out the factory door but you get more expensive, not always better, rigging.

Try sailing both and see what you think. I will be happy to answer anymore questions you may have as I have sailed both.

Cheers,


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cgj
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posted July 21, 2004 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cgj   Click Here to Email cgj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the CL16 and have sailed with a few Wayfarers.
One thing I noticed was there tapered masts and the hull is GRP as apposed to the CL's hand layed cloth.

Good luck with the albacore, I sailed these as well and they are a quick boat in the right hands!
But they are tippy and tough to keep upright in a strong wind, so challenge him when hte waves get big!

Cheers,
Chris (1037)

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lholland
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posted August 13, 2004 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lholland   Click Here to Email lholland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked at both before purchasing a CL. The few W I found for sale were old and beat up with plywood floors. I'm not sure if and when W stopped being produced and if there are newer ones on the market. Anyway I was looking to sail ASAP and not buy a repair project. So when I found a well taken care of CL16 at a reasonable price, I grabbed it. I'm not interested in micro-adjusting the rigging - not my bag. I love my CL and have not regretted the purchase one bit. My advice, spend the extra loot to get a boat in good condition, regardless of the brand.

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Originally posted by mark:
I am looking to buy a CL 16 or a Wayfarer and am interested to know about any advantages/disadvantages one boat has over the other. From what I have gathered so far the hull is the same so does anyone have any information about where the boats differ. I will be sailing on Georgian Bay, recreational day sailing and the odd club race to see if I can beat the old Albacore that tools around on a Tuesday night

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whited
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posted August 13, 2004 06:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wayfarers still made in Canada http://www.abbottboats.com/indexreg.htm

I agree about getting a boat in the best condition possible.....unless you enjoy working on them.

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mark
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posted August 20, 2004 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark   Click Here to Email mark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to all who replied. I am now the proud owner of CL1246. Had her maiden voyage last weekend on beautiful Dorcas Bay (Lake Huron) with my 10 year old son who had, up until then thought of sailing as boring and nothing to do. I think he is hooked!

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Canadian Sailor
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posted August 21, 2004 07:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It always annoys me how ignorant those people who think sailing is 'boring' are. If only they knew how much fun it really is.

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