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Eric
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posted August 15, 2005 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I drove 3 hours east Friday, over to the Bancroft ON area to go sailing. My buddy from the TrailerSailor Forum has a Siren, and of course I had Paradise Pat was my crew on the Florida trip.
We sailed Chandos Lake, about 10 minutes from his house. Chandos is a beautiful little lake to sail on for a weekend. There are oodles and oodles of little lakes over that way to sail. The best part was it was all free!! No marina fees, no launch fees, nada! Just the very expensive gas to get there and back.
Chandos is 'L' shaped with many little bays to explore, and anchor. There are islands, and points, which sometimes confuses the wind, and sometimes makes you fall off 180 degrees!
We anchored in one such bay for the night, rafted up, had a great dinner, and some beers. Next morning was a little drizzly, but no matter. We had a couple cups of fresh perked coffee, and scrambled eggs and bacon
The drizzle ended and we sailed for the ramp. I had a great relaxing weekend.
Here's what I saw of the Siren, most of the time

Now don't get me wrong, the Siren is a great Canadian trailer sailor, but, even with very generous head starts, I was able to easily overtake him. If we caught the same puff of wind when I was close by, I could feel the Sandpiper quickly accelerate faster than the Siren. Pat's thinking his next boat maybe a Sandpiper

Eric

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posted August 15, 2005 12:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting Eric. Since the 17' Siren is half the weight of our 'Pipers. i thought they might be a bit quicker.
As I remember mine though from 20 years ago, it seemed to take forever to travel any distance.
At that time I belonged to the Canadian Forces Sailing Association because it was cheaper and the club was on the Shearwater Naval Base, tucked in behind MacNab's Island and close to the harbour entrance.

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Darcy
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posted August 15, 2005 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darcy   Click Here to Email Darcy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was always under the impression that a Siren would be faster because it was lighter. (More dinghy like.)

Although we're new to the fleet, we're beginning to get a real feel for the Sandpiper and how fast it can move. Although a bit tender (like a dinghy) , it seems to move right along at its' maximum hull speed (like a well designed keel boat). You can hear a steady churning of the bow wave echoing off the jib when you're moving well. It feels like a much bigger boat. We say Shortwave is giggling at this point; happy to be churning upwind or rolling down the waves off the wind. She does this while keeping the crew comfortable and dry in her well designed cockpit.

Maybe the light Siren pounds too much, loosing valuable momentum. It might be faster surfing down waves in a blow; but I'm sure it would also be scarier.

D'Arcy

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elmet3
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posted August 15, 2005 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elmet3   Click Here to Email elmet3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm.... Very interesting analysis guys. Another example of the Sandpipers qualities. If you want this type of boat, it is a great boat of this type. (It suits me very well)

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Eric
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posted August 16, 2005 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had the same thoughts as the rest of you, that the much lighter Siren would match or exceed the Sandpiper's speed. We weren't trying to race mind you. I do try to always sail to the best of my ability however. The Siren had two experienced crew, Pat's partner being a Wayfarer sailor.
This is the second time I've actually had my 'piper up close and personal with other similar sized boats, and again she has excelled The Sandpiper looks are always a step above the competion
Eric

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posted August 16, 2005 10:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You won't get any arguments in this form on that!

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Windroos
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posted August 16, 2005 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Windroos   Click Here to Email Windroos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother (who is an experience sailor) had a tanzer 22.

One day on the St Lawrence, the wind was strong. So I tied my buddy to the hand rail and was counter balancing the boat as if it was a Hobby Cat. Leaning clomplety on the outside with only the feet on the hull.

We past my brother with no problems and we smiled at him. We still laugh about it and proudly say to who ever wants to hear it that a Piper is faster than a Tanzer 22.

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John
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posted August 17, 2005 11:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great story John.. Now all you need is one of the great t-shirts Stan has..so you can really swell up your chest with pride when the brother comes over. ;-)

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