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Topic: More on Sandpiper mast raising
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whited
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posted August 31, 2004 09:47 AM
 
I wonder if anyone here tried raising their mast the opposite way.
That is...have the head of the mast forward on a bow pulpit crutch and use the boom as a 'gin pole'. You would also have to rig side stays to keep the mast from swaying port or starboard.
I have seen a couple of different posts where people have done this and seem to like it.IP: 156.34.51.21 |
Shortstay
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posted August 31, 2004 01:45 PM
 
I would think that would be tougher because of the way that the bottom of the mast inserts into the step, i.e. the "thin" part of the female fitting on the aft side of the mast.------------------
Kevin
Shortstay III, #901 IP: 198.115.167.11 |
whited
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posted August 31, 2004 01:46 PM
Yes...now that you mention it...!
The posts I had read were about other boats.IP: 156.34.86.108 |
Darcy
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posted September 01, 2004 12:57 PM
There's also a lot more leverage involved getting the base of the mast into the slot if you're standing on the foredeck. It's hard enough standing on the stern.D'Arcy IP: 70.48.4.3 |
windy island
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posted September 01, 2004 03:19 PM
I keep the side and back stays attached when tailoring. I run my geniker line through the anchor roller. I pull the rope and walk and stabilize the mast until vertical. I tie off the rope, walk to the front and attach the forestay. I have done this at least ten times this year. I raise and lower the mast by myself. I'm 55, not too strong, but this works great for me.Ab IP: 209.217.117.198 |
Eric
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posted September 02, 2004 08:53 AM
When I'm alone, I do as Ab has explained,(I think) or very similar.The other way I like to do it with a helper, is to use the jib or spinn halyard, the same length as the forestay. I attach it to the trailer winch, and have the helper winch up the mast. I get the initial lift started, but the winch pulls it up nice. Then I connect the forestay, and disconnect the trailer winch. Eric IP: 130.63.100.105 |
Eric
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posted September 02, 2004 08:59 AM
Should have added this before.Welcome, Windy Island/Ab to the board. I don't believe I've seen you post before. Thanks for the input, and I look forward to your posts  Eric, Sandpiper #144 IP: 130.63.100.105 |
Eric
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posted September 10, 2004 06:44 AM
Ok, I took some pics Wednesday when I hauled out. This also relates to the other thread on trailering prep.For raising and lowering, I run a line through a jib cleat forward to the anchor roller, and connect it to the forestay. This line is in my hand as I raise or lower the mast. When raising, the line gets cleated when the mast is up. Before untieing, I make a baby stay out of the jib halyard, connected to a padeye I have at the bow. You could also tie it off to the forward cleat. Then I connect the forestay to the bowplate. With a helper, you can use the same method, where the helper pulls the line/forestay, or the helper can connect the winch strap from the trailer to the forestay, and run the strap over the roller. The anchor roller is worth its weight in gold on our boats!  At the transom, I have two boards. The short one is used for transporting the mast. The long one is just a temporary support for raising and lowering the mast. It keeps the mast high enough, so the mast clears the sliding hatch.  It's not pretty, but I find it less cumbersome than some other methods I've seen. These boards get tossed in the truck when I'm done. Wish I had better pics, but I was working singlehanded  Eric IP: 130.63.85.93 |
whited
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posted September 10, 2004 09:37 AM
Dumb me! I went to the Binnacle and bought a block and 2.5" long ss bolt with wingnut to accomplish same task as the bow roller will do. I was thinking of using smaller diameter line so I could tie it off on a mast mounted cleat....but on second thought a thicker line is easier to handle.
I copied your idea for the stern mast crutch, but went one step further and bought a roller and strap assembly from Canadian Tire ( vs your V grouve) so I could easily move mast forward/back once the top end rests on the roller. You don't appear to use a ginpole. I guess when the mast is sitting at a 30 degree angle it's easy to start raising. Next I want to install padeyes inline with the mast step. I'll attach lines (or poles)to help keep the mast moving side to side while raising. I'm guessing about 6 feet up the mast will be high enough for the support lines to attach. IP: 156.34.88.245 |
Hyprstitch
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posted September 10, 2004 09:07 PM
6 foot is fine. Look at a picture of my boat. You have a single line to the mast, but it comes off a v, and there needs to be level with the mast step. Have have a roller on my crutch. Makes things much easier. Sid IP: 64.12.117.21 |
whited
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posted September 13, 2004 09:13 AM
Sid...more on those 'V loups' of yours.
What is your advantage over a single line attached to a padeye fastened 'inline' with your mast step? i'm thinking you have a bit more flexibility, as the fastening clip of the support stay can move a bit along your v loup. With just a single line from both sides of mast to padeyes, you'd probably have to be very accurate in placement of padeyes.
Are your side support stays taut all the way up til the mast is vertical?
Also...do you use the shroud padeyes as the aft connection for the v loup and would the forward padeyes be the same distance forward of the mast step as the aft are back?
DonIP: 156.34.83.79 |
Hyprstitch
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posted September 13, 2004 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by whited:
Sid...more on those 'V loups' of yours.
What is your advantage over a single line attached to a padeye fastened 'inline' with your mast step? i'm thinking you have a bit more flexibility, as the fastening clip of the support stay can move a bit along your v loup. With just a single line from both sides of mast to padeyes, you'd probably have to be very accurate in placement of padeyes.
Are your side support stays taut all the way up til the mast is vertical?
Also...do you use the shroud padeyes as the aft connection for the v loup and would the forward padeyes be the same distance forward of the mast step as the aft are back?
Don
Tje pad eys are attached equal distance from the mast center. And know the line is not taut all the way up, but most ot the way up. The blocks on the V travel with the single line. I've been promising to post pictures and measurements. Not been able tom but will make a point of it with in the next two weeks. Hard to raise the mast and take pictures. Guess I'll have to put my wife to work. Sid IP: 205.188.117.21 | |
