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rbedard
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posted August 05, 2004 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello
If I were to replace my turnbuckles with Vernier Shroud Ajusters would I need to replace my shrouds with longer ones. The reason I want to replace my turnbuckles with adjusters is because of the article on the Canadien Wayfarer site indicated below.

Adjusterhttp://www.angelfire.com/de2/WIT/shroudadjusters.html

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Remi

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rbedard
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posted August 05, 2004 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry the correct link is
http://www.angelfire.com/de2/WIT/shroudadjusters.html

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Eric
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posted August 06, 2004 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting link.

I would be curious to know the cause of the failure of the turnbuckle, before going to the trouble of changing shrouds. Are you wanting to replace your standing rigging altogether anyway, and looking at alternatives?

Looking at the pic of the failed turnbuckle, it appears to have been bent. If a threaded forked end has been bent, then I can see how failure would result. A turnbuckle should not bend under normal use!

BTW, I have seen those adjustable fittings with locking levers, so they sort of snap open, loosened, and snap closed, tightened. I heard them refered to as Johnson levers. Not sure if that's their correct name.

Eric

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rbedard
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posted August 06, 2004 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does not seem like turnbuckles break easily and often,but I am curious why cl sailboats started to selling shroud ajusters(indicated in the replacement part list on this website). I am planing to exchange mast (already have a new one), but I want it to be safe from snapping.

Eric have you ever heard of a turnbuckle snapping.

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Eric
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posted August 07, 2004 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, but I haven't been in the sailing world too long I've heard of shrouds letting go, because of a kink in the cable, ie a little bend that doesn't straighten when the shroud is disconnected. I've also read where a shroud will let go due to fatigue at the swage or Nicro press fitting.

I had a slightly bent turnbuckle, like in the pic. I changed it out!!

I could see if the bent turnbuckle was on leeward, and you tack or gybe in a good breeze, that the sudden shock may cause the bolt to straighten and snap. Maybe not the first time, but eventually it'll "get ya"!

The shroud adjusters look like a quicker, no tools, same tension everytime, solution to turnbuckles. When I go to replace my standing rigging, I will probably investigate a similar system for my Sandpiper.

Eric

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Shortstay
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posted August 07, 2004 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shortstay   Click Here to Email Shortstay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK. I read that link. Now I'm interested too!

I need to replace both turnbuckles & was about to order them from CL. I wonder if we can get our friends at CL to look into this?

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Shortstay
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posted August 07, 2004 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shortstay   Click Here to Email Shortstay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just emailed Cody. Perhaps he'll have some input for us next week.

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CL Staff
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posted August 10, 2004 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CL Staff   Click Here to Email CL Staff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello All,

This is a interesting discussion. We supply turnbuckles as they are the "easiest" way to get the rig up. They can fail and I have seen it happen. However when used properly they are solid. There is no performance advantage. You can buy a HOBIE SA and use it (they are long enough to permit you to use your current shroud). Long and short: if you will properly use a TB (wire them, tighten the nuts and tape them) you can use them. IF you would rather just forget about it - then a SA is the way to go.

Cheers,

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Cody J. Cote
Sales & Service Manager/Sailing Advisor
CL Sailboats
cody@clsailboats.com
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Shortstay
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posted August 10, 2004 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shortstay   Click Here to Email Shortstay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cody, thanks so much for the follow up!

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Kevin
Shortstay III, #901

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