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Topic: Totally enclosed piper cockpit
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2short S565
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posted July 01, 2005 12:45 AM
  
When I had a Sandpiper I wondered if a dodger was possible. Well this more than proves it;
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Shortstay
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posted July 01, 2005 09:09 AM
Nice shot, fred. Do you know whose 'Piper that is? Where did you get the shot?IP: 198.115.167.33 |
2short S565
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posted July 01, 2005 09:35 AM
It came from the Genco Marine web site; http://www.gencomarine.com/dodgers/album.cfm?BoatLetter=S IP: 70.48.166.240 |
whited
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posted July 01, 2005 11:53 AM
In our damp maritime climate, that might be just the ticket!IP: 156.34.91.186 |
Eric
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posted July 01, 2005 12:59 PM
I've seen that on the Genco site. Neat!I'm not sure how they constructed that, but I've had in mind to make a bimini top, and have it made so that sides and a back pannel could be installed for the night, probably zippered in. Some form of dodger pannel would need to be designed for my idea as well. Down in Florida, most of the small boats I encountered, had at least a bimini, to shade the crew from the hot sun. Our sun, up here in the north can be just as harmful. The one trade off with a bimini on a small boat, like our Sandpipers, is getting in and out of the cockpit. The forward web support straps are the real problem IMHO. Just going to the mast requires you to crouch.
There was a couple in FLA who were sailing a little Peep Hen. They slept in the cockpit because the cuddy was too small. They had what looked like a custom made screen tent, that went over their boom, bimini, and around the mast. It very nicely enclosed the whole boat so that mosquitoes could not get in! It was very easy to pack away in the morning. I'm not sure what they'd do if it rained however.
You can see their boat, the green hulled boat on the left. I'm right behind them, with my answer for sun protection, a beach umbrella, $4.99US at Big Lots 
I took this pic in the early morning before we all got underway. All the boats on the left were part of the cruise. We were even rafted up. Probably half the sailboats on the right were part of the cruise as well.
Eric [This message has been edited by Eric (edited July 01, 2005).] IP: 216.209.109.170 |
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posted July 01, 2005 01:41 PM
Here is another picture from the BEER Cruise. This boat is Urchin, a Windrose 18, proudly skippered by Mr. Charles Brennan, and his lovely wife, from Miami. Charles is a frequent contributor on the Trailer Sailor forum.
For all intents and purposes, the Windrose and the Sandpiper, are very much the same, dimensionally.
This picture gives you a very good idea of how a bimini would fit on our Sandpipers. You cannot stand up in the cockpit when the bimini is set up. That doesn't really bother me. You can see Charles elected to tie his forward support straps to his shrouds, which he says makes it easier for him to exit the cockpit forward. Typically, these straps are mounted on the deck near the hand rails. That means they would be angled down, in the way, should you want to go forward.
You may also notice that the Windrose mainsheet, is on the transom, similar to the Sandpiper. Charles has installed his bimini so that when he trailers, the bimini will fold down just ahead of the transom. I think he has small tracks mounted on the boat, so he can slide the bimini frame ahead or astern.
All in all, I think a bimini is a good way to go, for protecting the crew from the sun, and rain. Adding back, front and side pannels to enclose the cockpit could be attached to the bimini for sleeping at night. As illustrated in my previous post, the bimini can also support a screen enclosure as well.
Lots of ideas to kick around
By the way, we were passing him, in case you were wondering
Eric
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2short S565
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posted July 01, 2005 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Eric:
[B] By the way, we were passing him, in case you were wondering [B]
Well that shouldn't have been hard to do....judging by that line off his stern hes towing a 30 footer  IP: 70.48.166.240 |
Eric
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posted July 02, 2005 07:07 PM
Hey, you ain't sayin' much about my sailing abilities .Actually Charles is towing one of the those little plastic kayaks.  Eric IP: 130.63.85.93 |
whited
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posted July 02, 2005 07:54 PM
Ah huh!
Notice the 'upward sweep' of the towing line...
as if it's attached to the Queen Mary 2. :-)IP: 156.34.91.186 |
windy island
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posted July 05, 2005 08:04 PM
I took this picture of a Sandpiper last summer at the Ivy Lea Marina but couldn't find the owner. The cover is from genco. I wanted to invite the owner to the rendezvous.IP: 216.106.101.137 |
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posted July 06, 2005 10:40 AM
Hey, in the Brennan shot, what's that going between the foot of the jib & the starboard shroud? A whisker pole? That's not how you would normally rig one is it?IP: 198.115.167.201 | |
