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Pathfinder
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posted October 07, 2004 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pathfinder   Click Here to Email Pathfinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings everyone. After monitoring this forum for almost two years, hoping, like Sid, for a S565 event, and seeing that noone was responding, I have taken some initiative.

After locating many of you, checking distances, reading other class rally reports, locating desireable venues, obtaining CL's blessing, and discussing with a few S565 owners, and above all reading your ideas on the Forum, I concluded that distance will likely always be something to overcome. (Kevin's idea of rotating events seems an obvious one, D'Arcy's idea of a transcontinental raid has great merit, and Halifax to Nfld sounds fantastic- gulp!! I fear I'd go down before I hit Chedabucto Bay! )

I am willing to organize if - I have help, get a few committed boats, and if I have some knowledge of the venue; and we now have these. Below is a skeleton plan to get us going in 2005; so this time we'd like to invite you "over to our place".


DATE: Sat July 30/05 - 25 hour overnight cruise
Sun July 31/05 - afternoon race & evening pig roast/awards programme.

(detailed plan later)

PLACE: Killbear Park and Killbear Marina near Parry Sound ON and among the ruggedly beautiful 30,000 Islands.

(Come Friday night; leave Monday; it's the Civic holiday)

This promises to be a wonderful venture for the group in every aspect.

Please email with your ideas &or help.
compasspoints@hotmail.com


"...where there's a will, there's a path.... "

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Hyprstitch
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posted October 07, 2004 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hyprstitch   Click Here to Email Hyprstitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hello Stan, my wife will be my crew, long befroe a 25 hour cruise would be completed I would be divorced, or we would kill each other.

Sid

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Pathfinder
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posted October 07, 2004 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pathfinder   Click Here to Email Pathfinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From: D'Arcy Dunal
To: Path finder compasspoints@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sandpiper S565 Rendezvous 2005
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 02:19:11 -0400

Hi Stan:

This is just my opinion but I think we should base the racing on the fact that many of the boats have not raced much, if at all.  The main goal should be to have fun, and in the process learn a few boat handling skills:  (A celebration of the fact we are taking mans' slowest form of transit and racing it.)

I would suggest we focus on several short races perhaps with a brief intro to basic racing before we start.  If we went with a long race the slower boats end up in a parade way behind the leaders.  Short races keep it exciting with close mark rounding and upwind work. (Also gives new racers a bit more luck to pull off the occasional amazing finish.)  If we could do it close to shore or a dock then people could watch.  The starter could even be on the dock.

In the spirit of the kind of sailors I think we are we might consider a few other awards besides 1st, 2nd, etc.  How about prizes for:
Best manoeuvring around marks.
Best starter.
Boat that travelled the farthest to get to the rendezvous.
Fastest oldest boat (or just oldest boat).

Again, these are just my own observations.  We might also put it out to the fleet.

Regards, D'Arcy

[This message has been edited by Pathfinder (edited October 07, 2004).]

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windy island
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posted October 07, 2004 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for windy island   Click Here to Email windy island     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Parry Sound is about a 5 hour drive for us. I confirm my attendance. This is my 1st year sailing. I like Darcy's idea about a prize for the longest route taken to reach the finish line.

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whited
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posted October 07, 2004 06:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think D'Arcy means road miles travelled to get to the regatta.
I was wondering about that 25 hr overnight cruise. Does that mean we will travel 75-100nm and then back on our pipers? To sail all night you probably need 3 people who can navigate & steer the boat. ( 4 hr watchs)

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Shortstay
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posted October 07, 2004 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shortstay   Click Here to Email Shortstay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's a fantastic idea & I applaud Stan for grabbing the bull by horns to get the idea rolling.

As for our attendance, it's 635 miles away according to Mapquest. That's a long trailer ride! However, while it's not impossible, what is impossible at this point is for us to commit. Mainly it's an issue of my employment situation. I'm teaching skiing this winter, but have no idea what I'll be doing after the snow melts.

However, in a perfect world, we'd be there with bells on!

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Kevin
Shortstay III, #901

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posted October 07, 2004 07:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like Sid might be the distance king if he makes it. According to my Map Point program..
Denver - Parry Sound 1634 miles one way
Halifax - Parry Sound 1155 miles one way

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elmet3
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posted October 07, 2004 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elmet3   Click Here to Email elmet3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would probably come, can't say for certain yet because of other plans in the works for next summer. The date is probably as good as any. Not sure what a 25 hour overnight cruise is. I'd sail someplace and spend the night and sail back.
That is an area I have long thought of exploring.
Guess somebody is going to have to settle the port-o-potty dispute before we cross the border. Truth is, the Ontario boat police have a reputation on this side of the border of being rather picky. Another problem is that south of the border we are allowed to use VHF radios without special license. In Canada you must have a license. I have read a Canadian document that states they overlook this difference in regulations around the border provided you are just sailing through. I don't know if they would tolerate that, and other, differences in regulation if you are anchoring and spending a day or two. I believe there are also differences in safety requirements in terms of fire extinguishers and flares. Not sure about that.

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Eric
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posted October 07, 2004 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well now Stan, are ya worried about attendance now??
[small]He was worried nobody would come!![/small]

Stan contacted me earlier on, and asked me what I thought about a rendevous. Wow, that sounds great!! He also asked for a little help, and I said sure!! I see we may have D'Arcy helping us with a race program! I've never raced my boat, so I think this would be a hoot!!
Are you kiddin' me?????

This is going to be the best damn sailing rendevous/party of '05

Parry Sound is a beautiful treasure, here in Central Ontario, a body of water just right for a Sandpiper!! Come and plan to stay on after! Travel farther north to the North Channel, less than a days drive! Or visit many other fine destinations in Ontario!

Spread the word! If you know of other 'piper owners, find a way to get the word out to them!

We have some details to work out for logistics etc., so bear with us until we get all your details worked out!

Great call Stan!!

Eric

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Pathfinder
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posted October 07, 2004 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pathfinder   Click Here to Email Pathfinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: 25 hour overnight cruise.

The Sandpiper thinks it's a cruising yacht. Skippers either day-sail, overnight, or weekend it.

Some of us would like to (risk their lives and) exploit the S565's long-range capability, anchoring overnight in the lee of one of our famed 30,000 Islands (and will have to hook up their porta-potty to the deck pump-out fitting). Others would prefer to (save their marriages and) cruise for the day, and return to base (marina or park beach/off-shore anchorage) at night (and will have to hook up their p-p to the deck pump-out fitting). (Well, this is Ontario, eh?)

I for one am glad you plumbing experts brought that debate to a head. But that's another thread.

With careful planning, we might be able to plot a nice cruising course to accommodate both day and overnight cruising desires.

The 25 hour cruise, then, casts off when Eric gets topside Saturday morning, and ends in time for everyone to greet Windy Island's arrival for Sunday lunch. Precisely 25 hours.

We have no plans for nocturnal navigation, 4 hr watches, or baby feedings (been there - many times). Not to mention things that go bump in the night at low water levels (submerged rocks).

This is going to be a blast!


"... where there's a will, there's a path..."

[This message has been edited by Pathfinder (edited October 07, 2004).]

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Darcy
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posted October 07, 2004 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darcy   Click Here to Email Darcy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We're there for sure. How about a prize for shortest distance travelled? Our Cottage is only 40 minutes from Parry Sound.

Like my suggestions for racing, I'd keep the 24 hour overnight event casual and fun as well. In our youth we sailed some spectacular overnights through some pretty wild weather. My personal favorite was rounding the Swiftsure lightship at 3 A.M. in 15 foot seas while the moon was eclipsing. Now that we're older, and because not everyone has done an overnight, it might be preferable to have a casual day sail together, maybe rafting up for lunch then going on or returning to a place that had shore based heads for the evening. I believe that's the true essence of the "Raids" I mentioned earlier .

A fleet of Sandpipers sailing in Parry Sound would be a spectacular site. It would be neat to meet you guys in person.

D'Arcy

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Pathfinder
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posted October 08, 2004 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pathfinder   Click Here to Email Pathfinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Further to Eric's suggestion above:

If you more distant particpants could see your way clear to make the haul to Parry Sound, and if it would be more worthwhile to extend your stay in our area, my wife and I would be happy to sail with you in, say, the North Channel.

D'Arcy, does this qualify as a "raid across the north"?


"... where there's a will, there's a path ..."

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Eric
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posted October 08, 2004 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To our American friends:
The potti issue may be of importance, but the VHF license I don't think is, because you're visiting from out of country. Our coasties are pretty cool about radio traffic, etiquette etc. Also, if you know the basic procedure already for VHF use, which I'm sure you do, you won't sound like some amateur unlicesnsed powerboater

In Parry Sound, The Canadian Coast Guard on CH16, is "Thunder Bay Coast Guard Radio." They have repeaters at Tobermory, Killarney, and one other Georgian Bay location IIRC. There's a fair amount of boat traffic, so if you have a hand held only, [like me] don't worry. There's even a GC station in Parry Sound.
I called TBay GC Radio, in Parry Sound, and they received me!

Don't forget to get your visting Canadian flags as well

Eric

[This message has been edited by Eric (edited October 08, 2004).]

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skategoat
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posted October 08, 2004 09:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, can CL owners come?

I can vouch for the choice of venue. The Kilbear area is absolutely stunning. The water is crystal clear and the scenery is right out of a Group of Seven painting.

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SuperPiper
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posted October 11, 2004 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperPiper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I mentioned the rendezvous to Joanne, she said, "Cool!" So unless the date proves to be a problem, you can include Hull #123.

Jo may have accepted the idea so quickly because I have been hard-peddling the notion of participating in the Halifax-St. Pierre race in 2006. Maybe she is thinking that the Killbear weekend will pre-empt the trans-oceanic event.

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Shortstay
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posted October 11, 2004 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shortstay   Click Here to Email Shortstay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skategoat:
Hey, can CL owners come?

I was actually thinking about this same idea... Why don't we open it up to all CL owners? There might be some events which could be divided into classes, and I think there would obviously be better attendance if we weren't so snobbish!

Heck, many non-Piper owners already feel we hog this forum...

Of course, this suggestion is coming from someone who is only likely to be a fly-on-the-wall for this first go-round instead of a participant, so take it from the source...

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Kevin
Shortstay III, #901

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posted October 11, 2004 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superpiper...
A good warmup for the Sandpiper regatta and the 2006 Hfx-St Pierre might be Marblehead to Halifax July 10 2005. This race has a lot of history. You might win a prize as the smallest participant. http://www.rnsys.com/Welcome.html

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Darcy
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posted October 11, 2004 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darcy   Click Here to Email Darcy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more sailboats the better. Why not open it up to all CL boats? A festival of trailer sailors. In the past we've had some marvellous times racing, with most racers or participants camping. The evenings are a lot of fun.

D'Arcy

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Eric
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posted October 12, 2004 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eric   Click Here to Email Eric     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I'm in the mood for posting pics, here are some from Parry Sound this summer!!

At the town dock

Looking out from the anchorage in Kilcoursie Bay

Having french toast in a secluded anchorage

The crew and I spent 3 nights there, on our boat. My crew especially loved Kilcoursie Bay the most. Well protected, and a beautiful sand beach!!

I hope we can get the word out to all Sandpiper owners about the rendevous!! You'll not be disappointed sailing in Parry Sound!!

Eric

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CL Staff
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posted October 15, 2004 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CL Staff   Click Here to Email CL Staff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gentlemen:

Draft a poster or some other brochure and I will distribute it at the show and along with all S565 orders we receive from here on in. I will also make available a section of our server space for a site dedicated to the meet if you wish. You can post pictures, maps, reg forms, results and whatever else you want.

You know how to get a hold of me.

Cheers,

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Cody J. Cote
Sales & Service Manager/Sailing Advisor
CL Sailboats
cody@clsailboats.com
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Ken
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posted October 15, 2004 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken   Click Here to Email Ken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cody, do you mean that CL is now producing S565's again....or parts orders?
Cheers....Ken

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CoolBreeze
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posted October 15, 2004 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBreeze   Click Here to Email CoolBreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they meant they would distribute the brochure with any parts orders for the 565...

But it would be nice if they made a new 565....hmmmm...what would we call it??? What improvements would we want to see in the new design??? Maybe topic for another post!!!

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Rob Belliveau
1976 Sandpiper 565
"Cool Breeze"
Halifax NS
Soon to be at DYC

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Shortstay
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posted October 15, 2004 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shortstay   Click Here to Email Shortstay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's extremely kind of you, Cody!

As for restarting production of the 'Piper, I read in the archives somewhere that Cody explained the boat is so well made that to produce it today it would cost as much as boats approaching twice its size!

I guess we call that "progress," right?

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