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Patrick Crooks
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posted April 12, 2005 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Crooks   Click Here to Email Patrick Crooks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello All,

I'm ashamed to ask this question, but does anyone have any pictures of thier rudder fully assembled.

I took mine completely apart to refinish it and I forgot to take pictures of how the rudder kickup cord is assembled. I was looking at all the parts over the weekend all laid out on my work bench when I realized what I forgot to do. Needless to say the air was a little sour afterwards.

Thanx in advance,

Patrick
"Barefoot"

IP: 206.45.180.53

Windroos
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posted April 12, 2005 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Windroos   Click Here to Email Windroos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Patrick

Kinnda early and will be late for work.

Tonite I'll take some pict and explain it to you.

Ciao

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John
Quebec city
1981 Sandpiper 927

IP: 66.131.169.240

whited
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posted April 12, 2005 01:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Patrick...until John gets back to you...
here are pictures of my scrungy rudder.
(I used the pressure washer on it)
As soon as we get consistent clear weather with temperatures in the 50's, I'll start working on mine.
1st photo.. forward edge

2nd... aft edge

3rd..starboard side

I'm trying to decide if I should paint it off-white or try to fix it up enough to varnish. The 'head' is quite rough with some minor de-lamination.
Without taking the rudder apart, I can't photo how the line attaches to the blade.
Don in Halifax

[This message has been edited by whited (edited April 12, 2005).]

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Windroos
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posted April 12, 2005 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Windroos   Click Here to Email Windroos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

Whited has maded great shots. I am sending you close up pict.
This one is top and view from the side.

Top at an angle, notice the knot recess in the hole

Top view a little bit out of focus on my macro. Sorry.

Side view. Notice the elastic bungee cord at the end of the rope. The one that attached to the underside of the tiller. I made it that way so if I ever hit a rock it will still move backard and not break anything. It is design as not to lift while sailing.

Top and side view before the knot goes in the hole.

Hope this will help you.

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John
Quebec city
1981 Sandpiper 927

IP: 66.131.169.240

whited
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posted April 12, 2005 06:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks John..I was wondering how the line attached to the blade. That 'stopper knot'....is it spliced or whipped?

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Darcy
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posted April 12, 2005 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darcy   Click Here to Email Darcy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a great thread. If I might add another question: We too are sanding and refinishing our rudder. There are a number of gouges that I would like to repair; filling the gaps then sanding to a fair shape. the problem I have is how do you do this and still maintain the beautiful natural wood finish? I fear the filled portions will look like ugly blotches. At the risk of being excommunicated by the woody crowd, I'm even considering painting the rudder. If we did this it would be the same cream colour as the cabin and deck.
D'Arcy

IP: 67.68.49.21

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posted April 12, 2005 06:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question...re my third photo..the side view.
Just below the 'gudgeon' is a type of wedge that is inserted, I believe, to control the blade. Does anyone else have this feature?

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whited
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posted April 12, 2005 06:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with you d'Arcy. As you can see, the PO of my boat painted the rudder, tiller and all other wood black. He thought it looked nice with the black waterline stripe.
The top plywood veneer of my rudder head has lost the filling between it and the next layer in a couple of places. I will try to gouge the loose stuff out, refill with something and clamp it off. At this stage painting a white colour might be the best option. ( either that or spending $ 310.00 on a replacement)

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elmet3
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posted April 12, 2005 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elmet3   Click Here to Email elmet3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't have any wedges on my gudgeon, Whited.
Last year I completely disassembled the rudder and used the old pieces as templates. I remade the rudder head out of marine plywood, the internal spacer out of oak (because I had oak). I reused the rudder blade and the hardware. It turned out great and was not difficult to do. I through bolted the rudder head in most locations (instead of wood screws) and it is much more rigid. But there were no wedges. Does it prevent the rudder blade from coming too far forward? The internal spacer should do that, but if things were worn out I can see a wedge at that spot would stop the rudder from coming forward.

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Windroos
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posted April 12, 2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Windroos   Click Here to Email Windroos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whited
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It is whipped. No wedge on mine. Only a stopper on top of the rudder to stop it. Hum! I should've taken a pict. Will do it later on.

My rudder is in good condition. Only a little filling, sanding and varnish will make it look perfect. Not much too fund of paint.

Darcy

I have some filling to do also. I intend to use epoxy and put a little bit of brown color in it as to hide my job a bit . Will remove the screw and use some bolt instead.

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John
Quebec city
1981 Sandpiper 927

IP: 66.131.169.240

Patrick Crooks
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posted April 12, 2005 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Crooks   Click Here to Email Patrick Crooks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank-You all for the pictures. It has helped me alot.

I had the same problem as you D'Arcy. My rudder blade had prop rash. All I did was sand the hell out of it. It's a little thinner now on the bottom end but looks great. In the areas where the gouges were really deep I just sanded those areas smooth. The rudder is a little wavy, but I'm not a racer.

Patrick
"Barefoot"

IP: 207.161.57.12

Windroos
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posted April 12, 2005 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Windroos   Click Here to Email Windroos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope this help you. The check on the rudder is shown to the top right side.




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John
Quebec city
1981 Sandpiper 927

IP: 66.131.169.240

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