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Topic: New CL owner
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CL16FRENCH
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posted February 10, 2004 11:00 AM
  
Hi,I am a new CL16 owner used 1985 boat. Did not sail Dinghys since I was 17 racing 420's in Europe (long time ago). I would like to introduce the sport to my 8 year old son.
What should I check first on my use boat and do you have tips for my first time out?
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Celtic Kiss
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posted February 11, 2004 01:16 AM
Welcome to the fleet and welcome to the board. You sound like a quite able sailor and my only suggestion to you is to give the hull a thorough check-out (you probably did before you purchased it). For your maiden voyage, sail out on a fairly light day so you can get accustomed to being in a dinghy again before getting too adventuresome. I can tell you from personal experience that the CL-16 is a superb design and can withstand a lot of wind without fear of capsizing. (25-30 knots) To get your son involved with the sport, just remember to make it "fun" for him and don't go too much of the racer mentality of proper trim and blah blah blah. If you can use the boat to go on camping trips, swimming, picnics etc. your son will have many fine memories of his childhood. Congratulations and Good Luck!! ------------------
Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120 [This message has been edited by Celtic Kiss (edited February 11, 2004).] IP: 142.59.51.255 |
RAB
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posted February 11, 2004 09:06 AM
Hi French
Welcome aboard. I am new to sailing. My first time out I took my wife and things went...not so good. My only suggestion is to let the family watch from shore a few times. That way you won't scare your son and he'll be dying to go out once he sees dad make a few passes. I have two daughters, 10 and 7, and they really want to go out. This coming summer, now that I have a feel for sailing my CS15,they are coming with me. (still working on my wife...)RAB IP: 24.226.10.99 |
Canadian Sailor
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posted February 12, 2004 03:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Celtic Kiss:
For your maiden voyage, sail out on a fairly light day so you can get accustomed to being in a dinghy again before getting too adventuresome.
I kinda forgot about that part when I first sailed my CL 16. It didn't help that my brother didn't know how to sail. ------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." IP: 209.226.189.179 |
Darcy
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posted February 13, 2004 12:25 PM
This is just my opinion for what it's worth but: Over the years I've taught quite a few people to sail. A real friction can develop sometimes between family members or close friends, spouses, etc.With kids it can be a marvellous experience but it can also turn bad if they perceive you're always ordering them around. With my own guys, knowing that I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to making a boat sail, we got them into sailing camp. It allowed them to learn the basics with kids their own age. After that they were keen to helm our boat. I've also watched near a few near divorces take place when it comes to couples learning to sail together. Again having them sail for a while with someone other than their spouse seems to work. D'Arcy IP: 64.229.226.242 |
Hyprstitch
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posted February 14, 2004 12:08 AM
Hello Darcy, those are true words. My wife tells me not to yell at her. And I don't think I'm yelling. Funny, I take friends out and don't have the problem. I went racing with a friend and she asked me if he was shouting orders to me. My answer was yes. I explained that thing have to happen now, and there is not always time to be polite. Any way, she has learned a little, and therefore there is a little less shouting. Sid [This message has been edited by Hyprstitch (edited February 14, 2004).] IP: 152.163.253.101 |
Eric
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posted February 14, 2004 05:33 PM
Hi CL16F! Welcome to the board!
Congratulations on the purchase of your sailboat!
It took my boys a season to get the hang of it, heeling and all, now it's "Dad make it go over, yeeeeeeehaaaaaaa!!!" They're the same age 8 and 10, and can't wait for summer sailing!
I'm really glad they enjoy it! There's alot of good father/son bonding time on sailboats!Eric IP: 130.63.85.93 |
CL16FRENCH
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posted February 17, 2004 08:16 PM
Thank you all for the info. I guess I'll try to put my son through sailing school first. He is already complaining that I give him "too many directions" on skiing!
I'll pick up my boat from the dealer next month. Should I ask him to rig the boat with me to make sure that nothing is missing?
CL16FRENCHIP: 69.37.90.57 |
Celtic Kiss
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posted February 17, 2004 10:00 PM
Since you are being given the opportunity to rig it correctly, I suggest you take advantage of the offer. It could save you a lot of heartache in the future and increase your sailing time.------------------
Robert
Celtic Kiss #2120 IP: 142.59.62.156 |
Canadian Sailor
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posted February 18, 2004 01:54 PM
Yes.Otherwise you'll end up rigging it in your yard with the old and hard to read/understand instruction booklet. Which takes a couple of hours... and I still don't know how to properly put up the tent. ------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." IP: 207.164.143.162 |
Canadian Sailor
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posted February 18, 2004 01:55 PM
Yes.Otherwise you'll end up rigging it in your yard with the old and hard to read/understand instruction booklet. Which takes a couple of hours... and I still don't know how to properly put up the tent. ------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." IP: 207.164.143.162 |
Darcy
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posted February 18, 2004 05:32 PM
You might also take a few pictures of the process as well. That way when you're rigging it next spring you'll have a photo record of how you did it this year. We're not getting any younger and our memories aren't getting any better. How many brain cells do we lose in a year?D'Arcy IP: 64.229.225.10 |
CL16FRENCH
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posted February 20, 2004 04:04 PM
Thanks all. I like the idea of taking pictures. Now guys do you trail you boat using the CL16 Canvas cover or tie everything down and put the sails and other stuff in the vehicule?CL16FRENCH IP: 12.129.98.129 |
Canadian Sailor
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posted February 22, 2004 04:09 PM
Tie everything down and sails in the truck.------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." IP: 206.172.142.62 |
CL Staff
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posted March 01, 2004 12:40 PM
When teaching sailing, an althete has 3 needs:Balance (do some gunwale bobbing so they know the boat is more stable then the inital heeling) Direction (teach them how to use a tiller either on land or by towing them with a coachboat, they way they can freak out, let go of the tiller and not do 26 slam gybes and be turned off of sailing) Perpulsion (tighter (the sails) does not mean faster!) Start there and finish ahead of the fleet. Cheers, ------------------
Cody
Sailing Advisor/Sales manager/Web Development
CL SAILBOATS
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elmet3
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posted March 01, 2004 03:04 PM
My wife is a very good sailing partner. At least she is now, the first time out was different. First time was a very low wind day and everything was fine until the wind died about 300 yards from the dock. I hadn't bothered to put the motor on so I just picked up a couple paddles and we paddled in. 300 yards was all, honest, and we had no time constraint, and it was a pleasant warm evening and it was nice to quietly row in. That set her off. I still don't know why she was so incensed. Whenever she mentions the experience to anybody she says I made her row in and she starts boiling again. Since then I have NEVER allowed her on MY boat, and I make clear that I NEVER WILL. That suits us both and we get along fine. IP: 67.107.33.106 |
Robert D
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posted March 01, 2004 07:55 PM
Elmet: That's hilarious and reminds me of a scenarion I was in once. I have a bit of a habit of not having a motor and have spent many hours adrift waiting for the faintest zephyr to take me home. (Hint for saltwater sailors: Time your return trip home with the tide) I'm single, on the dating scene and my main pre-requisite is for my girlfriend to like sailing and to handle stress well. On one occasion I took out a girl I was dating and we got caught in the doldrums. After much whining she took out a paddle and cursed with every stroke. I processed all this info and said to myself "Well Rob, that's it for her time to looking again." Robert (The sailor formerly known as Celtic Kiss) IP: 142.59.62.156 |
Darcy
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posted March 02, 2004 12:10 AM
During the winter of my first year in university I met a girl. We both had jobs in Toronto that summer. It came up in casual conversation that I raced on Saturdays and every Friday evening after work I hauled the boat up on tha crane and cleaned the hull. She asked if she could come down on Fridays to help scrub and wet sand the hull: I married that girl.D'Arcy IP: 67.68.48.97 |
Robert D
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posted March 02, 2004 02:34 AM
Darcy: I hope I have that kind of luck someday soo. I'm in a relationship now but sailing season will be the real "test" Robert (The sailor formerly known as Celtic Kiss) IP: 142.59.62.156 |
CL16FRENCH
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posted March 05, 2004 12:31 PM
Ah Ah ...No problem here.
My wife, the two kids and I are doing a lot of wilderness canoeing on rivers and lakes. Last time we had to cross Lobster Lake (Maine) with a 15+ mph wind pushing us, three foot waves, and two kids and over 600 pounds in the canoe (thank god for the seaworthiness of Old Town canoes).
So paddling is not our issue and I introduced my wife to this form of recreation AFTER I was married.
Anyway, I am planning to do most of my sailing with my son. Thanks all for the tips. ------------------
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