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Double Vision
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posted October 20, 2005 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Double Vision   Click Here to Email Double Vision     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the best time of year to sail. It may be cold, but the wind is so dense at this time of year. Plus, the wind is usually blowing realtively hard. Does anyone know how to calculate hull speed for a CL code 40?
Let me know.

Thanks

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SuperPiper
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posted October 22, 2005 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuperPiper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The traditional hull speed calculation is 1.34 x square root of Waterline Length in feet for a speed in knots.

I once saw how that formula was derived. It was the speed that a perfectly cycloid (kinda like sinusoidal) wave, with a peak to peak length the same as the length of a boat, progressed through water. The 1.34 was the resultant of pi divided by some constants for water, etc. This formula assumes that the boat is perfectly nested in the wave.

However, Sail magazine once had an article for calculating the recommended horsepower for an auxilliary engine. The article used a slightly modified version of the formula. Instead of 1.34, it used the calculated "Speed-Length Ratio":

8.26 / ( "Displacement-Length Ratio" ^0.311) where

The Displacement-Lenght Ratio is:

Total Displacement / 2240 / (( 0.01 x Waterline Length )^3)

For example, if the all-up weight of a 'Piper with 2 crew is 1945 pounds, the Displacement-Lenght Ratio is 257.28 (medium displacement cruiser) and the Speed-Length Ratio is 1.470 (as compared to the traditional 1.34).

So, the hull speed of a Sandpiper is:

1.470 x sq.rt(15 ft) = 5.694 knots!

These little boats can rip!

These calculations have 1 sad side effect. Any extra gear and paraphernalia will add to the displacement which will trickle through the calculations to result in a miniscule reduction in speed.

Now you understand some skippers' fanaticism with weight reduction.

[This message has been edited by SuperPiper (edited October 22, 2005).]

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whited
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posted October 22, 2005 09:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the other hand, that 40 is either a planing or semi-planing hull. Wonder how you calculate for that. I always wondered what speed the CL 14's & CL 16's could reach.

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CK 2120
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posted October 24, 2005 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CK 2120   Click Here to Email CK 2120     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting read for speed calculations. As for Don's question I know that my GPS tracked my CL 16 planing at 9.3 -9.7 knots for seven miles ( jib only)and if my memory serves correctly I covered that disatnce in less that 45 minutes.

Robert
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posted October 24, 2005 04:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remind me not to challenge you to a race when I get my 'Piper down your way.

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clracer
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posted October 26, 2005 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clracer   Click Here to Email clracer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this summer i had my cl16 reaching on my gps 22.5km or about 12knots it was exciting now i know that i have had it going a lot faster but i never had a speedo

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