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Patrick Crooks
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posted August 29, 2005 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Crooks   Click Here to Email Patrick Crooks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father, my Neice & I went for a sail last Saturday and all I can say is that it was interesting to say the least.

It was blowing pretty good (White caps on the water) and there was some rain as well. The first part of our sail was with the wind behind us. When I unfurled the jib we had a tough time getting a decent sail shape. The one thing I noticed was that the forestay was really loose thus causing the jib to balloon. Is this normal?

The thing we had a problem with was moving the three of us around the cockpit when the boat was healing. That damn tiller takes up to much room. Any suggestions?

On our way back we were beating and had a tough time tacking. The boat just wouldn't move the bow through the wind so we had to gybe instead.

A couple of times we were almost knocked over because of wind gusts and I found that I could not respond fast enough with the mainsheet being mounted at the back of the boom. Has anyone looked at moving the mainsheet to the boom center?

Patrick

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Fred
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posted August 30, 2005 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fred   Click Here to Email Fred     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not familiar enough with the CL to know if it applies, but on other boats I have been able to help the bow around by backwinding the jib. Just wait a little longer than usual to loose the jib sheet when you tack.

I'll leave the mainsheet question to those who have had it both ways.

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Hyprstitch
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posted August 30, 2005 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hyprstitch   Click Here to Email Hyprstitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like you did not have enough boat speed to complete a Tack. Also Fred had a good point. I don't release my Jib until it it has switched sides, and then Trim it as fast as possible. Hard to do solo. Practice coming about wiith your crew before you have extreme conditions.

Sid

[This message has been edited by Hyprstitch (edited August 30, 2005).]

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Dougster
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posted August 30, 2005 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dougster   Click Here to Email Dougster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the past couple of years I have taken my CL16 to a cottage we rent in Haliburton and both years we have had a few days of 15 kt winds gusting to 25 which makes for lively sailing in a CL16. I don't claim to have all the answers however, here is what I have learned (mostly the hard way). In high winds, the CL 16 behaves best under reefed main alone. If you have an older boat like mine that has the roller reefing on the boom, don't waste your time trying to get it to work (it doesn't). Get a sail maker to install a reef point (I only had a single reef point installed, I am not sure of the value of having a second reef point installed unless you will be sailing in really strong winds). If the winds are strong, reef before you get underway. It's far easier to shake out a reef if you've been too conservative than to reef on the water. If you haven't learned to heave to, learn this maneuver, practice it and make sure you have a line thats convenient to lash the tiller. It can give you a moment to collect your wits when things get too exciting. Finally, if you don't have a good sail shape with a taut luff on your gib, your are going to have a very tough time managing the boat let alone tacking. Tacking with a baggy gib in strong winds is virtually impossible. Hope this helps

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piper576
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posted August 30, 2005 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for piper576   Click Here to Email piper576     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patrick I agree it is not easy to control a tack using the furler system that was on my piper in heavy weather, and it seemed that I could not get enough tension on the halyard to take the bow out of the jib. So I took the easy way out - increased my number of headsails
a DRS for the really light stuff
I now use the fuling jib for lighter weather,
a hanked on working jib for moderate to heavy weather and a hanked on storm jib for the crazy stuff where I should be at home instead of on the water!

Bob

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