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Topic: Water in CL16 hull
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skategoat
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posted August 31, 2004 10:22 AM
 
I was looking at a used CL16 and noticed that when I opened the centreboard access ports, there was quite a bit of water in the hull. This boat has been sitting on a trailer and is not covered. There aren't any obvious cracks or voids on the deck or cockpit.The owner seemed unconcerned by the water and drained it out by tipping the boat back. I'm wondering, how does the water get it there? Is it normal to find water there? Will it contact the foam filling or is it isolated from that area? Should this be a deal breaker? Thanks, Skategoat IP: 209.167.159.20 |
Rob Wierdsma
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posted August 31, 2004 02:00 PM
 
While most of the boats I know are a bit older, every CL16 I know gets water between the deck and the hull. Newest boat I know is 2569 and it suffers from this as well, althought to a lesser extent than my 1050.
Water in my boats comes mainly through the cracks in the cockpit, but also through screw holes for bench supports, fixtures I've attached for rigging, etc.HTH,
Rob W. IP: 207.245.8.19 |
skategoat
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posted August 31, 2004 03:02 PM
I'm new to CL16's but have experience with foam filled boats like Boston Whalers. With a Whaler, water intrusion is a big deal. It gets into the foam, soaks it and if there is enough of it, it freezes in the winter and cracks and/or delaminates the hull. That's why I'm paranoid about water.I suppose if it's a normal situation with CL16s, I can get over it. Thanks. Skategoat IP: 209.167.159.20 |
bobc
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posted August 31, 2004 04:33 PM
I have an older CL #486 that bought used. It also had water in the hull. I found that yes it did indeed soak the foam which was not closed cell. I took all the foam out from under the floor and replaced it under the foredeck and lazerette sections. It is there for floatation and its useless if soaked. Its was not a big deal to get mine out through the inspection ports. So if the price is right I wouldn't worry to much..
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Bob Crowley
Luna #486 IP: 66.251.26.191 |
Canadian Sailor
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posted September 05, 2004 08:43 PM
Darn it, all my paranoia about deck hardware, cracks, and other crazy things and the whole cause of my problem is the seam betwixt deck and hull!? ARGH!------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." IP: 209.226.189.110 |
ron979
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posted September 10, 2004 08:01 PM
About a month ago I purchased a older CL-16. When I started doing a closer inspection, I also found water in the hull. I drained the water, went sailing for several hours, and then re-checked the hull and it was dry. I was happy - no hull leaks. But, now I've checked my hull again and there is water in it. The water must be leaking through the deck. There are a bunch of, what looks like minor cracks on the deck. I wouldn't be concerned if it was a little water, but I think that I have at least a couple of gallons of water in the hull. Should I be concerned? What can I do? Anything else I should investigate. Any help would be appreciated. Should I worry that my boat will sink if I tip over? Does anyone know when they changed to closed foam floatation (if they ever did)?Ron
(very new to CL-16s) IP: 24.57.106.209 |
Rob Wierdsma
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posted September 10, 2004 09:11 PM
That sounds like about the amount of water I get in my hull after sailing for that period of time. I would check your centre board bolts, ensure they are tight and the rubber gaskets are still in good shape. If you're still worried, add a little extra floatation in the lazerette and up front.
I stopped by Quiet Waters up in Waubaushene (north of Toronto) a couple of summers ago and saw a CL16 that he had fixed up. Jos Boelryk had taken a layer off the deck of the cockpit and put down a new layer of fiberglass. It fixed up the cracks most of us have in our cockpits. That's where I think most of my water gets in.
Rob [This message has been edited by Rob Wierdsma (edited September 10, 2004).] IP: 24.42.117.105 |
Rob Wierdsma
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posted September 10, 2004 09:13 PM
What sail number is your boat?[This message has been edited by Rob Wierdsma (edited September 10, 2004).] IP: 24.42.117.105 |
ron979
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posted September 11, 2004 08:33 AM
Sail number 911 (kind of of ominous I know). As I mentioned before, the water is not getting when sailing, but when it is sitting on the trailer. I saw some products on the internet that are supposed to seal fibreglass. Does anyone have any experiance with these types of products?IP: 24.57.106.209 |
ron979
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posted September 11, 2004 11:35 AM
Today is my boat's day!! I'm not planning on sailing today, just in case something goes wrong.Superstitious - Nah! Well, maybe a little! Ron IP: 24.57.106.209 |
fvracer1
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posted October 12, 2004 02:24 PM
I purchased 1169 at a boat auction for $200. It was donated to a charity that was glad to get rid of it. it had the normal accumulation of leaves and nuts laying in the cockpit. I found that the previous owner only sailed the boat once and never sailed it again. By leaving the boat open, the hull flexed and cracked atthe end of the trailer bunk. I flipped it over and filled it with West system epoxy with filler and faired the hull in both locations(Bunks). Lot less water inside boat. Is the class alive or dead?IP: 129.9.163.233 |
Canadian Sailor
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posted October 12, 2004 06:17 PM
Well, I don't know much, but my friend had a cream puff laser he bought, the thing was so watertight, he could inflate the hull, and when he'd take the pump out, air would rush out. A month after he got his boat, sailing it one day, the deck tore out from the port side, he had to swim his boat to shore.Now, I haven't heard this happening to CL boats so I have a feeling that the adhesive used on them to seam deck and hull is stronger, but maybe not as watertight as my friend's. Just my two cents. ------------------
Canadian Sailor ;)
"Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you
criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." IP: 216.209.138.146 |
Eric
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posted October 12, 2004 08:16 PM
Here's a link to the CL16 Class Association http://ww2.eagle.ca/cl16/Default.htm This past summer there was a big regatta of 16's up near the North Channel. Apparently they had boats from Canada, US, and a few from Europe. Eric IP: 130.63.85.93 |
whited
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posted October 12, 2004 10:25 PM
That CL16 Association website seems inactive the last two years.IP: 142.177.36.185 |
Tom D CL16
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posted October 13, 2004 08:47 AM
Great another CL16 in Michigan.
I think there are 5 maybe 6 that have been on this board from Michigan.
Great saiing Tom D.IP: 64.12.117.21 |
