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Topic: Sandpiper cover
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whited
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posted August 12, 2004 08:45 AM
 
Ouch....the guy called back with his estimate for a 'fitted winter cover'.
He wants $ 1500.00 CDN. Bit too expensive for me. I'll probably buy a 'throwaway' heavy duty poly tarp each year.
Too bad that sunbrella doesn't come in 10 or 12 foot wide sheets. I'd buy 20 feet and stick in the grommets myself.
Sid...can Sunbrella be sewn with a household sewing machine?IP: 156.34.49.129 |
Ken
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posted August 12, 2004 12:50 PM
 
Why use Sunbrella? It's pretty dear for a winter cover and probably not the strongest for the inevitable winter snow and ice loading. Usually there will be a low spot somewhere in the cockpit area. This low spot will collect water and the resultant sheet of ice will be very heavy. I webbed my cockpit with vinyl covered steel clothesline wire to support the cover in this location. Use the mast as a ridgepole support.
ShortWave uses a heavy non-fitted winter cover made of swimming pool winter covering material. Silver on one side and black on the other. It drapes over the whole hull and nearly to the wheels all round the trailer. The front wraps around the bow and mast while the rear wasa left somewhat open for ventilation. Loops in the hem allow you to tie it down. North Sails on Lakeshore West in Toronto made it up for me for $200 Any sailmaker can do the job.[This message has been edited by Ken (edited August 12, 2004).] [This message has been edited by Ken (edited August 12, 2004).] [This message has been edited by Ken (edited August 13, 2004).] IP: 141.117.228.250 |
whited
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posted August 12, 2004 05:02 PM
That's much better Ken Fits a retiree's budget plan.
Your material sounds like the generic cover I bought on sale at Canadian Tire for my CL 14. It still looked like new after two years. Only problem, I didn't support it properly and it would usually collapse into the cockpit under snow/ice/rain weight.
I believe I paid about $40.00 for it.(regular price = $ 70.00)[This message has been edited by whited (edited August 12, 2004).] IP: 142.177.154.241 |
Hyprstitch
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posted August 12, 2004 08:00 PM
Sid...can Sunbrella be sewn with a household sewing machine.I guess the answer is yes, but it would most likley ruin your machine before you finish. Your seams would not be as strong as you would like. And don't think you could top stitch your seams. Also I sue a sun guard thread which won't fit in a home machine. Sid IP: 64.12.117.21 |
Hyprstitch
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posted August 12, 2004 08:03 PM
Why use Sunbrella?It breathes for one reason. Its not going to fade. A little care and you will use it for over ten years. Its forever soft. And I say its the best you can use. Need I say more? Sid IP: 64.12.117.21 |
Shortstay
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posted August 12, 2004 11:54 PM
Thanks for opening this thread, Don. Thanks to you two too, Ken & Sid, for additional elucidation... Whoops, used that word again!  For this off-season, I'll probably go with your initial suggestion, Don: a throwaway tarp. I'll probably rig up some kind of support in the cockpit area too, as you've advised, Ken. I knew coming into this hobby that the definition of boat is "a hole in the water into which one throws money," but I need to proceed cautiously! ------------------
Kevin
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Hyprstitch
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posted August 13, 2004 07:51 AM
When I build mine I'll see what I can build a second one for. I'll also post pictures. I believe you all have see my cockpit cushion. They also are made of Sunbrella. Not hot to sit on. Sid IP: 152.163.253.103 |
Shortstay
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posted August 13, 2004 09:11 AM
Sid, I don't think I've seen the pix of your cockpit cushions. Do you remember what thread it was in?Thx,
Kevin IP: 204.60.60.146 |
Eric
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posted August 13, 2004 12:16 PM
Kevin, Sid's cockpit cushions are just "run of the mill"  ! Seen one seen them all  What's really impressive, is his interior!  Prepare to drool over your keyboard!!  Just scroll down this linked thread! You'll see what I mean.
http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000477.html Eric
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Eric
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posted August 13, 2004 12:28 PM
Kevin, while I bring up interiors, check out this one from our friend Jean! (who hasn't posted for a while  ) He must be out sailing!! I'm always on the hunt for old dressers sitting out in the trash since I saw this
http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000501.html Eric [This message has been edited by Eric (edited August 13, 2004).] IP: 130.63.85.93 |
whited
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posted August 16, 2004 12:12 PM
'Princess Auto' flyer arrived with mornings newspaper.
They have a canvas tarp 24' X 18' marked down from $ 180.00 to $ 130.00.
I wonder if that's much too big??
re chafing.... my BVI buddy recommended I buy two 10' or 12' lengths of 6" PVC pipe to slide over the mast. Not only would that protect the mast from winter wear, but would be a lot easier on the tarp. For those of us with lifelines, I wonder if half a dozen 'swimming noodles' over the lifelines would protect tarp from staunchions?IP: 156.34.87.187 |
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posted August 16, 2004 03:01 PM
Just got back from Princess Auto.
Dangerous place to go, as I'm now $ 265.00 poorer. I did buy the canvas tarp which seems to have reinforcing at all the gromet holes and poly rope loups sewn in the hem.
Not sure if it's treated, but I'll buy a can of the stuff from Canadian Tire and re-coat each year.
I also picked up a 600 lb capacity trailer dolly to help position the trailer down my narrow driveway. Not sure if I really needed to spend $100.00 on this item but I do tend to get a bit foolish at certain types of stores. Next time I'll take the wife along to supervise.
i also checked out winches (re Mac 26 mast raising technique) but the type I needed only came in a big 2000 capacity version. It was similar to our bronze naval screw. the handle never flys out of control and it turns both ways equally. Perfect for raising/lowering under control.IP: 142.177.158.104 |
Ken
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posted August 17, 2004 08:48 AM
I recommend that you remove the stanchions and lifelines before covering the boat for the winter. It gives the tarp a better line and the slope will shed more snow & resulting ice. The stanchions are held in place by 2 allen grub screws each. (Buy some spares)
The lifelines are easily removed also. The first winter I stored the mast off the boat and so I removed the bow pulpit as well. After that that winter I used the mast as a ridge pole under the tarp, suported by the pulpit and stern railing.IP: 141.117.228.250 |
whited
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posted August 17, 2004 09:21 AM
Thanks for that tip Ken. I didn't think my stanchions had the allen screw, but went down and checked one out (not installed yet). My version only has one allen set screw per stanchion. I'll try not to lean too much on the lifelines. IP: 142.177.36.12 |
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posted August 25, 2004 12:09 AM
Eric, sorry to be so long in reply. Didn't get back from vacation until last Monday.Yes, I had seen Sid's interior pix before. My wife had pointed them out to me Thanks for the links. IP: 198.115.167.24 |
