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whited
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posted November 24, 2004 09:13 PM
 
Rigged my 'Piper like Shortwave and struggled to throw the heavy canvas tarp up over the mast ridge pole. That thing is heavy & awkward. It's also too wide at 26 ft x 18 ft. Next year I might see how much an upholstry shop would charge to cut some off and install a new row of grommets.
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posted November 25, 2004 10:07 AM
 
Wait Don, don't cut it yet!!
You could always get some of those prefab framing pieces Ken uses for Silverheels, and build a portable knockdown garage!! Your tarp would be great for that, and if you cut the tarp, you may make it too small!I think lumber yards carry those fittings. If not check Lee Valley! Just an idea  Eric
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posted November 25, 2004 12:59 PM
That's an idea Eric..
Maybe I could spend a few nights out there in January just to get a feel for what Ken does.I was looking at those portable vehicle shelters Costco sells for about $ 500.00.
I wasn't sure how sturdy they were..and at 11 feet wide, I'd have to intrude on my neighbours property by a foot.
He's a sailor also with a Shark that he keeps at a local marina. IP: 142.177.33.151 |
Darcy
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posted November 25, 2004 07:18 PM
We have one of those portable auto shelters in our back yard (On sale $349.00 at Ronna last year). It's a bit short for a Sandpiper though. We're using it for protecting our Hunt hull while we grind down the blisters. It heats up during sunny days so I figure it will dry out the hull over the winter. I'll be doing the Interprotect in the spring.D'Arcy IP: 67.70.85.57 |
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posted November 25, 2004 08:58 PM
I've seen them advertised at two different places. One was about 18 ft long at a cheaper price and I believe the Costco one was 22 ft long at 5 C notes. (Could be vice versa)IP: 142.177.33.151 |
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posted November 26, 2004 08:38 AM
I should clarify my last post. They seem a bit "low" for a Sandpiper. We have the 18 foot long version. The height of the cross brace is about 6 and a half feet. Not quite high enough for pulpits and cabin to clear when Shortwave is on a trailer.D'Arcy IP: 70.48.5.7 |
Eric
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posted November 26, 2004 10:15 AM
Re the portable sheds, there's a chap nearby[on my way to Midland], who has a totally prefab portable "garage". He keeps a fishing boat and a Sandpiper inside, side by side!! Nothing sticks out, ie mast, and is completely enclosed. It's big! When I went up for a sail in early October, I saw the boats under the roof canopy only. Now he has all the sides on. It's really slick!
There's a place in Barrie that sells all types of these portable sheds. I've seen them advertised in country/farmer type flyers at the farm stores around here. I would really like to get something like this, one day 
I shall have to make a point of stopping by to see this guy in Hillsdale, see his boat, and to tell him about the Rendevous!!
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posted November 26, 2004 10:47 AM
You've got my wheels turning now.
In my case a portable 'shed' type shelter may be more practical. With my 10 foot wide driveway, I snuggle the 'piper as close to my house as possible. If I used 8 foot high
2" x 2" studs against the house and put a 4 /12 roof slope to the outside, it might be easier to deal with the snow load. All the snow would fall to one side of the shelter/boat. Also, I wouldn't have to cover in one of the sides. (against house)
I've got lots of the 1/4" graph paper around. I'll put my drafting table back together and try to come up with some plans. IP: 142.177.33.151 |
CoolBreeze
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posted November 26, 2004 05:21 PM
I also considered buying one of the ones from Costco. I never did get the actual dimension. For now, the good ole blue tarp is doing ok. I definately would like to dig deeper into the Costco one. We got caught here in Halifax last week with a freak snowstorm. Of course, I never had the boat fully covered yet. Amazingly, very little water got in the boat. It only seeped in around the front hatch. I think ineed a new seal.... what do all you have for a seal for the front hatch????? >>>Whited>>> we should meet up at a Timmies some time over the winter and compare notes.... what do you think??? ------------------
Rob Belliveau
1976 Sandpiper 565
"Cool Breeze"
Halifax NS
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posted November 26, 2004 06:00 PM
Sounds good Rob.
I'm putting together a file of all my Sandpiper documents, info etc. Might be something here that interests you.IP: 142.177.33.151 |
Hyprstitch
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posted November 27, 2004 08:51 AM
I was holding out hopeing for one more sail. Gave up yesterday, cold here in Denver. Took the motor off, and set it next to my old Honda. Covered the boat up, at now waiting for warmer times. Next weekend I'll get the snowmobiles ready. Not enough snow to go play yet, but that is changing fast. Sid IP: 198.81.26.106 |
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posted December 05, 2004 05:35 PM
I have been using a blue poly tarp (Canadian Tire) to cover my 'Piper.In the past, a tarp would last 1 season. However, I have learned that the secret is to keep the tarp from flailing in the wind. So, I have started using "Instant Grommets" and Javex bottles full of water to keep it under tension. The current tarp is on its 3rd season. It is starting to wear: there are already blue flakes along the deck. The "Instant Grommets" were purchased at Home Hardware. They definitely outlast the original grommets. 
[This message has been edited by SuperPiper (edited December 05, 2004).] IP: 69.156.1.31 |
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posted December 05, 2004 05:57 PM
I hear you Superpiper.
I put my Princess Auto canvas tarp on just as a gale type windstorm arrived. After one night the tarp wore through in two places where it rubbed against a staunchion base and the chock on the forward starboard side.
I thought those objects were fairly smooth, but will have to put something over them if I want the tarp to last.
Do the Javax bottles touch the ground...or do they hang?IP: 142.177.33.151 |
Darcy
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posted December 05, 2004 08:18 PM
You've got me worried now. I'll be checking how tightly Shortwaves' tarp is secured. Ken put some excellent web loops on the cover that are really tough.I've seen the weighted bottles used. Usually they're hanging which keeps them applying constant pressure downward. D'Arcy IP: 67.70.86.73 |
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posted December 06, 2004 04:45 AM
Yes, Darcy is right.The bottles hang in the air to continuously apply tension. As snow accumulates and melts the tarp may flex and pull tight again. The grommets are a little tough to snap onto a poly tarp. I doubt that they can be applied to a canvas tarp. By the way Don, I wouldn't expect anything to stand up against Nova Scotia's weather. Are you folks not paying enough tax or something? IP: 69.156.1.31 |
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posted December 06, 2004 10:35 AM
Just the opposite. We pay way too much.
The latest scam has the Province doing the property assesements while the city sets the property tax rate. Both point at each other when citizens complain about the fast rising taxes. The house next to me just sold for a bit over $300K. I cringe when I think of my next assessment. Maybe Ken has the right idea afterall...he just doing it in the wrong place. :-) IP: 142.177.33.151 |
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posted December 06, 2004 05:02 PM
Anybody try these eyelets from lee valley? http://tinyurl.com/63vlh IP: 142.177.33.151 |
