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The FISH is a Christian symbol used in the very early years of Christianity
when the Believers were being persecuted by the Romans. It was not safe
to be known as a Believer, especially if you were of the household of the
emperor. When two people met, one would draw the lower part of the fish;
the second person, if they were a Believer, would complete the symbol,
thus making it safe to talk about Christianity, Jesus, or about the things
that were happening in the new assembly of Believers.
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i.e. you attend church
because it's the thing to do!
because your Mom and/or your Dad did!
because you want to keep up appearances with your friends and neighbours!
because it's expedient to help you extend your business contacts
because it probably puts less demand on your time
because it is NON-threatening - there's no challenge to change, improve,
to meet the down-and-outers! -actually it may have more "UP-and-OUTERS"
than representatives of the opposite social scale!
because generally your LIFE-STYLE, no matter what it is, will not be
questioned - e.g. Most of the traditional churches now accept a person's
sexual orientation without causing any guilt feelings!
Actually most TRADITIONAL churches don't present enough challenge to
make life interesting
you prefer the OLD hymn tunes
you have no desire to change YOUR ways nor the order of worship - you
are COMFORTABLE with your 'OLD-SLIPPER' religion, no matter how worn out
and ineffective the support, it seems to cover the basics.
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Read on for further explanation of the FISH symbol and our personal
FAITH-story, followed by access to READINGS for "Praise
the LORD" Christians!
The Greek word for FISH is and was Ichthous. As an acrostic the Greek
letters say
Jesus
Christ
Son of God
Saviour
The Bible as we know it to-day was compiled many years later with
the Old Testament being compiled in approximately 90 A.D. and the New Testament
in about the 4th Century or 300 A.D. In 321 A.D. the Roman Emperor Constantine
declared Christianity officially as the religion of the Roman Empire. Some
of you will no doubt go scurrying for your history books as these dates
are not exact! However they do give a little idea of how long it took to
get the Christian Church started.
In our 20th Century there have been established hundreds of different
groups under the banner of Christianity, with many varied opinions of
how the scriptures came to be
who wrote the scriptures
is God - one being or is he 'three persons in one being' with the same
attributes, but differing in operation
is Jesus the only way to the Father/God
is God, the Creator, interested in you and me as part of His creation
is God Male, Female or an It
the list goes on
Needless to say our family have some strong Christian Spiritual
beliefs that have kept us sane, civilized and usually with sound judgement
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I am going to share here what is my FAITH
walk - basic, simple understanding of the Christian WAY of Life, a WAY
of Life (capital 'L') that can change your way of life (small 'l')
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UNDERSTANDING (through the modern day Interdenominational Christian
Ashram Movement) of the Christian Way of life, !

You Say "There is no God"
but I know differently!
IF you have seen EVE'S
FAMILY, you know that I have been around for awhile! For 17 years now
I have been learning, studying and trying to put into practice a complimentary,natural
lifestyle.
But Life (with a capital "L") began for me many years before that!
In this space I want to give you a little of my background.
I was born a very poor (in a monetary way) farmer's daughter. I learned
to 'make do' with simple things in life, simple food, simple pass-times,
uncomplicated relationships, the church was the center of my social life
until I entered high shool; the school activities became second place to
my church Life although I became a 'track Star' in sporting events,etc.
I have had 4 brothers and 2 sisters, two brothers are now deceased.
When my oldest brother at 16 years of age, left the farm to work for the
Ontario Hydro, I was my father's right hand "man"! My second brother had
been drowned at 14 years of age when I was just 12! I learned to drive
a big Massey Tractor, even to learning how to pull the cultivator, the
binder and at times I even took my turn riding the binder. My legs grew
VERY STRONG; consequently I did well in athletics. (I've since tried pushing
the brake pedals on that same tractor, and I can't even budge them to-day!!!)My
formal public education was completed in 1956 with honours in the Ontario
school system majoring in science, math and music.When I married a farmer's
son who was to become a minister, my schooling in the medical field was
dropped (In those days I became a bad!! risk when I married) and I became
a working wife to get my PhT degree, "Putting Hubby Thru!!!"I never doubted
there was a God! I saw Him in the wild flowers and the sunsets, in my baby
sister's face and the softness of a kitten. So faith came easily to me.
BUTAfter a few years as a minister's wife, I found some 'not-so-nice' people
in the church!!!I also was used as a 'human guinea pig' via the medical
folk who gave me (at that time) an experimental drug called CORTISON to
regulate menstration!!! It didn't do the job.!! Instead it did 'a number'
on my nervous system later to produce two nervous breakdowns!!
In 1967-68 I went through a very deep valley of DEPRESSION! Where
once I could sing and play before people, I no longer could! Where once
I organized meetings, I was unable to meet with the people. I just wanted
to hide! My kindly doctor put me on VALIUM, 3 or 4 a day, to help me cope!!
although I don't think I was Valium-deficient!!
In the summer of 1968, in search of healing and a deeper, spiritual
life, the Lord gave me HIMSELF, in an experience so real, that NO ONE can
tell me GOD IS NOT REAL!
The Valium was gone! I was healed physically, emotionally and spiritually!
I was filled with a great joy! and life took on a new dimension, a complete
180 degree turn!
For the next 12 years, I witnessed many amazing ACTS OF GOD -miraculous
healing where people should have died, life-changing happenings to people
who previously were miserable, unhappy, addicted to alcohol, drugs, tobacco,
food, (YOU NAME IT!) who became positive testimonies to their friends,
families, neighbours, in the work place, in their churches, etc.
We had two adopted children, lost a baby through late miscarriage,
then had two lovely girls by natural birth BUT LIFE DID NOT GET EASIER!!
I took my place in the interchurch community via The Christian Ashram
Movement and the TELECARE TELEPHONE COUNSELLING program plus other types
of interchurch activities.
BUT I CONSISTENTLY HAD TRAUMAS HAPPENING IN MY OWN LIFE!!!
In 1980 following several months of extreme STRESS with our two oldest
children and some difficulties in our congregation, I broke down again!!!
My question was not
Where is God?
but
What are trying to teach me now, Lord??
I had learned throught the years, that
LIFE'S EXPERIENCES HAPPEN!!!.
We just have to wait and see what we are to learn through them!!!
Romans 5:3 says "we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering
produces endurance (patience), and endurance (patience) produces character,
and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us, because God's
love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit which has
been given to us." Quote RSV, brackets by author!
For 8 months, while one of my congregation kept saying he had something
to share with me, "BUT I WASN"T READY!!!", I took chemical balance pills,
sleeping pills and fiorinal with codeine, a very potent pain reliever.
(As Dr. E. Watkins would say, I really wasn't deficient in any of these
drugs!!!!") I was a very angry , unhappy person!!! a very impatient person!!!
but I waited it out!
There is a saying that
"WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF YOUR ROPE, TIE A KNOT AND HANG ON!"
that's what I did while saying to the Lord, what DO you want
me to learn from this experience.
My GP playing at junior psychologist decided that my children
were disobedient, I was a disobedient patient (I didn't want to stay on
his drugs!#&!) and my husband obviously couldn't "KEEP ME UNDER CONTROL"
(the doctor was Oriental), and that I should find another doctor!!@##$$
When I returned home with this further challenge in my life, I called
a friend to ask her to pray for me! Immediately a voice said, "Call George!"
that was the parishioner who had said "I wasn't ready!". So I called George.
He came over to my home and started to talk about
DIET, HERBS and Alternative or Complimentary modalities.
Now some of those last ones are a little scary! After all I was a
'dyed in the wool' medical person. I did think he had gone off the deep
end!!! himself, BUT
HE WORKED AT THE HOSPITAL,
HIS DOCTOR HAD REFERRED HIM TO USING HERBS, he was a charismatic,
evangelical Christian who seemed to have his head on his shoulders quite
straight and
in those days, I still thought that doctors could do no wrong,
sort of Mini Dieties (M.D.'s!!)
Maybe this was something worth looking into!!!
To make a long story short, I went to see the Herbalist/Iridologist.
She gave me one combination of herbs and
IN THREE DAYS I WAS OFF THE CHEMICAL BALANCE PILLS;
IN ONE WEEK I WAS OFF THE STRONG SLEEPING PILLS AND
I HAVE NOT HAD A PRESCRIPTION FOR FIORINAL SINCE 1980!!!!!!!
GOD HAPPENED AGAIN!!, HE WAS WATCHING OVER ME AND Again My life took a
180 degree turn for the good. I had no doubt that HE, MY LORD, had arranged
the whole thing!!!
Personally I believe ALL OF LIFE'S EXPERIENCES are allowed to happen
in order for us to GROW WITHIN OURSELVES OR IN OUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE
FATHER GOD AND THOSE WITH WHOM WE COME INTO CONTACT EVERYDAY. One thing
is for sure, this attitude can sure help you through some pretty bad experiences!!!
Again we encourage you to check our Praise
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Are you a non-believer in a creator
God?
Does God really exist? or
Who are You?
Is there anything out there in the universe that will answer the craving
or spiritual hunger that has you asking
who am I,
do I have a place in history and, ultimately,
who is God?
One theologian (that's a person who is learned in the science
of understanding God and His relation to man - The Oxford Dictionary) has
said
"There is no KNOWN hunger where there isn't something created to
meet that hunger."
This is a natural law!! Try putting it into practice.
e.g. I have a brain - a highly intelligent piece of 'meat'
filled with nerves that can think, reason, study, move a hand or a foot,
experience hot and cold, is electrically charge!! etc. The natural law
says there will be many opportunities in life to meet the need to learn,
to act, to move. Just sit very still, quiet your thinking! and note what
happens (i)from within (ii)from the world around you. We humans tend to
focus on the negative things, rather than on the positive!
That craving or hunger whether for spiritual or physical things, MUST
HAVE DIRECTION! Therefore we need a STARTING POINT, an Orientation. You
may say "there is NO God!, therefore I have NO orientation!, no PLACE from
which to START". If this is your basic belief, you are, of all people,
most to be pitied for you have rejected the Power, the Person, who made
you IN YOUR BEGINNING, who created you out of two miscroscopic entities
that met in a dark place in your mother's body, to form a living being,
a person.
You will be at cross-purposes with REALITY and you are bound to get
hurt. You have a Vacuum-shaped place within you that desires to be filled
by its Creator,
to complete you and
to give you Purpose to Live.
A friend of ours puts it this way-
"Religion says: you desire basically a reunion with God - i.e. the
FATHER GOD. You are homesick! You are like lungs without air, a heart without
love, a landscape without beauty, YOU ARE STARVED!! irritable and unhappy
without HOPE in a world gone mad!!
When you cannot accept the Reality of GOD, you will try to
rationalize your standpoint by setting up SCAPEGOATS - something or someone
to bear the blame for your unbelief - "My mother beat me! If God is real
and he made mother's to love and not harm their children, then mother was
bad and she has warped my personality" or "When great tradgedies strike,
for example, the many students killed in China because of their revolt
against dictatorship, where was God when this happened? The human machine
without feelings is to blame but we would prefer to blame THE GOD WE DO
NOT FEEL EXISTS!!
The kids on the streets in Toronto, or any other city, must be there
because their parents weren't nice people!!! Blame the parents! but there
are choices in life, many choices
for every BAD CHOICE, there is a GOOD CHOICE when we are open to
see and hear!
You know the cup is half FULL (the positive) or the cup is half
EMPTY(the negative). In the Holy scriptures, Adam looked for a Scapegoat
when he got into trouble with the Creator, and blamed his wife, EVE. She
in turn looked to the serpent as her excuse.
WHO DO YOU BLAME FOR YOUR LACK OF DIRECTION, YOUR LACK OF A
FAITH POINT?
Your Mom,
Your teachers,
Some tragedy that you suffered,
life itself,
fate!!
the stars.
"As if lumps of matter floating in space could decide the destiny,
for good or ill, of a FREE MORAL AGENT like yourself."
the environment or
the unseen GOD of the universe ???
Since you were created with a FREE WILL, you can choose not to let
any of these Scapegoats keep you from THE HIGHER WAY, or
you can choose to stay in the mud!!
Whatever you DO, or you choose, you have to live with
the consequences! unless?? there is a better way!
IS THERE A BETTER WAY?
YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION,
IT IS YOURS TO CHOOSE,
TO GO THE WAY OF GOD, OR THE WAY OF 'NO GOD'.
In this choice lies Good or Evil, self love or self destruction, Life
or death, HOPE or NO HOPE, BUT THE DECISION IS STILL YOURS keeping in mind
you will also be choosing the consequences of your choice!
On the TV this past week there was a documentary on the prisons in Moscow
of the old U.S.S.R. The misery, the abuse of strong men, and wasted lives
when living under a godless regime is part of the consequences of CHOOSING
"NO GOD". Outside the prisons is hopelessness, crime running rampid in
the streets, children starving, no medicines in the hospitals, little or
no food for the worker, ALL CONSEQUENCES OF CHOOSING 'NO GOD'.
As we see our western world gradually deteriorating to the same level
(it won't take long now that the worship of God has been removed from the
schools.) we are seeing more and more of the same Hopelessness, Crime,
Abuse, (physical, psychological, spiritual, medical) in business, small
and large going bankrupt, we are seeing the destruction of our democratic
society due to the lack of teaching MORAL VALUES that are now BASICALLY
ONLY TAUGHT IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
Think about it! Do you want your world and the world of the 21st century
to be like the world our Russian friends are now living in? This is the
consequences of a GODLESS SOCIETY.
Here you are invited to a further discussion of CONSEQUENCES
Some other food for thought:
My homesickness for my heavenly Father is going to lead me to Him.
If I try to find Scapegoats, in the end, I know I shall become the goat!The
first condition of success is to assume responsibility for myself.
Today I shall give my attention to only the part of my environment
that I desire to allow to influence me. I have been and am WHAT
I HAVE DECIDED TO BE; today I decide to be a different person, a new person.
I have been a divided personality always fighting the conscience within
that tries to order my life. I have been two; now I'm becoming one with
myself and the God who created me.
GOD IS DISTURBING ME
like a person who has taken an overdoes of sleeping pills is afraid
to lie down, for fear he will never wake up again. So the Everlasting Creator
pursues us, sometimes sets us at war with our lower selves, disturbs us
until we beg to be let alone - to die. BUT love will not let us
die
He prods you into becoming a Transformed Person. As long as
the prod is there, you keep asking the questions - the Person is there
waiting for you, for your decision.
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My studies have led me to look at this absolutely amazing piece
of machinery called
THE BODY - Human and Animal
When I use a computer, I do not doubt that someone out there had
enough knowledge to program such an amazing piece of equipment. BUT the
computer is only as intelligent and accurate as its creator/programmer.
But what of the HUMAN BODY - SOME INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PERSON, out there!!
HAD TO BE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO CREATE IT!
Just look at its complexities! Could it have JUST HAPPENED?
The astonomer finds the answer at the end of his telescope with
its astronomical view of space.
The physicist finds the answer under his microscope as she observes
creatures too small for the human eye to see.
The new mother finds the answer as she looks into the face of her
newborn babe sensing the awe and wonder of what she has carried within
her womb for 9 months - the perfect tiny fingers and toes!
The farmer finds the answer as he cultivates and plants tiny seeds
by faith that as the Creator warms the soil and waters the seeds, at harvest
time, that seed will have multiplied 30, 50 or 100 fold.
Even the computer programmer can find the answer in the knowledge
that his signal will be transported through the air from one place to another,
knowing that even though the message may be fragmented in its space travel,
it will come together at the server to which it was sent.
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